Organic Curl Enhancers / Definers

Hey all,

So I haven't been using any curl defining sprays etc in my hair. I used to use gel and then scrunch dry, but lately I've been finding that the gel has started to weigh down my hair. I have more life and fullness 9and really, the same amount of frizz) with no product. But lately I've found that my front layers have started to loose their curl and look straight. So 'd like to try some curl enhancing / defining products.

Last night I bought and tried Marc Anthony, but this morning I'm finding that the synthetic fragrance, more than anything, it just getting on my nerves. My face and scalp can be sensitive to fragrance.

So I'm wondering if anyone can recommend any organic, sans fragrance (it can have a smell, it just can't have 'fragrance' listed as an ingredient), products?

Maybe John MAsters Sea salt spray (has anyone tried this?) Or something like that?
I really like Innersense products. The Quiet Calm Curl Control works really well ... I do scrunch some gel in for hold...
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlproducts/product-description/innersense-quiet-calm-curl-control

Here is the ingredient list ... I think it may be okay for you ...

The other curl creme that is organic and totally amazing is Mop-C Curl Defining Creme
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlproducts/product-description/modern-organic-products-csystem-ccurl-curl-defining-cream
This creme has more hold and gives the most amazing curls ... there are a couple of threads on the go about the Mop-C. It is more expensive, but I don't need to use a lot of it ... and I normally use a lot of product.
The QCCC is also a little pricier, but lasts quite awhile.
HTH
Type: 3a fine & dense,with normal porosity, terrible product junkie
ROUTINE: LI, enhancer, gel, plop with Curlease towel, serum product (either CIAB or Gel-les'c), clip & diffuse.
Too many favourite products to list ... I finally have my routine that works and alot of products to choose from. My product stash is huge, but well loved !!!
I second the Innersense. Excellent products!
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Hi,
I just joined the messageboard because I'm tired of spending half my morning trying to straighten & de-frizz my hair. This is the first place I've seen where you can actually put a type to your hair and discuss it--this is great!

My hair is a 2a/b, on the sides & back and a 2c underneath in the back. I live in the mountains, so humidity isn't a problem for me. Which means my hair's just naturally frizzy and tends to look like I stuck my finger in an electric socket. Don't get me wrong, I have the waves, but surrounding them is a halo of frizz.

So I'm interested in the organic enhancers & definers, also. Unfortunately, I've spent more money on products that DON'T work than on ones that do.
In that regard, is there anywhere to get samples of these products so I don't end up buying these bottles and throwing them away if they don't work? I hate wasting money, but I really want to make my hair work for me and I know the only way to do that is to experiment (I guess).

Also, do these products help with frizz? More than anything, I want the frizz to disappear and my hair to still be soft & touchable....
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CK (Curl Keeper) is an awesome product to help combat the frizz. Some use it on their own, but many use it after a leave-in and before their styling products. This is how I use it.
Jessicurl has a sample pack.
Another option would be to look at the swap board.
And finally ... I am not from the U.S., so I'm going from memory here ... but I think I've heard people mention that if you buy a product at Bath & Body Works and don't like it you can return it. I think that is the best option if you can find someplace that will allow you to do that.
Type: 3a fine & dense,with normal porosity, terrible product junkie
ROUTINE: LI, enhancer, gel, plop with Curlease towel, serum product (either CIAB or Gel-les'c), clip & diffuse.
Too many favourite products to list ... I finally have my routine that works and alot of products to choose from. My product stash is huge, but well loved !!!
Ulta will also take back products that don't work.

The CK that FrizzBGone mentioned is great for keeping frizz at bay.

Are you using enough conditioner? I have read on here somewhere that frizz might be the result of hair that lacks moisture. I make a homemade leave-in with 8 oz of distilled H2O and 2 tsp of glycerin. put it in a spray bottle and use it on wet or dry hair. It helps to provide some weight without adding any crunch.

Do you do DT (deep treatments)? This is with a heavy conditioner and heat... also to add moisture. There are several recipes around here for them.
Currently, using JC HCC, Too Shea, CK and CCSS, RR or LOOB or MOP-C.
CK is the one!!

as of 6/17/10 - I have to add Joico!

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Ulta will also take back products that don't work.

Are you using enough conditioner? I have read on here somewhere that frizz might be the result of hair that lacks moisture. I make a homemade leave-in with 8 oz of distilled H2O and 2 tsp of glycerin. put it in a spray bottle and use it on wet or dry hair. It helps to provide some weight without adding any crunch.

Do you do DT (deep treatments)? This is with a heavy conditioner and heat... also to add moisture. There are several recipes around here for them.
Originally Posted by hopetocurl
Hopetocurl is bang on. Before I came to the boards, I never realized how important conditioners ... and leave-in conditioners were to my hair. I had been afraid to use too heavy a leave-in thinking it would make my hair greasy looking. I was completely wrong. If I don't use a leave-in, I am guaranteed to have frizz, regardless of the products I use.
Type: 3a fine & dense,with normal porosity, terrible product junkie
ROUTINE: LI, enhancer, gel, plop with Curlease towel, serum product (either CIAB or Gel-les'c), clip & diffuse.
Too many favourite products to list ... I finally have my routine that works and alot of products to choose from. My product stash is huge, but well loved !!!
Ulta will also take back products that don't work.

The CK that FrizzBGone mentioned is great for keeping frizz at bay.

Are you using enough conditioner? I have read on here somewhere that frizz might be the result of hair that lacks moisture. I make a homemade leave-in with 8 oz of distilled H2O and 2 tsp of glycerin. put it in a spray bottle and use it on wet or dry hair. It helps to provide some weight without adding any crunch.

Do you do DT (deep treatments)? This is with a heavy conditioner and heat... also to add moisture. There are several recipes around here for them.
Originally Posted by hopetocurl



As a matter of fact, I shampoo & condition every day, although I don't do any deep treatments (at least not often enough to count and never with heat). I've noticed a lot of posts of people who don't shampoo every day to help control frizz. Unfortunately that's not something I can do, I tend to get headaches from having unwashed hair.

Are there any specific moisturizing shampoos & conditioners or deep treatments you can suggest? I was using pantene restoratives breakage defense shampoo & frizz control conditioner, which worked ok. But I'm trying to head into more organic products, so I'm currently on my first bottles of Giovanni Smooth As Silk (doesn't help the frizz).

Thanks!
Ulta will also take back products that don't work.

The CK that FrizzBGone mentioned is great for keeping frizz at bay.

Are you using enough conditioner? I have read on here somewhere that frizz might be the result of hair that lacks moisture. I make a homemade leave-in with 8 oz of distilled H2O and 2 tsp of glycerin. put it in a spray bottle and use it on wet or dry hair. It helps to provide some weight without adding any crunch.

Do you do DT (deep treatments)? This is with a heavy conditioner and heat... also to add moisture. There are several recipes around here for them.
Originally Posted by hopetocurl



As a matter of fact, I shampoo & condition every day, although I don't do any deep treatments (at least not often enough to count and never with heat). I've noticed a lot of posts of people who don't shampoo every day to help control frizz. Unfortunately that's not something I can do, I tend to get headaches from having unwashed hair.

Are there any specific moisturizing shampoos & conditioners or deep treatments you can suggest? I was using pantene restoratives breakage defense shampoo & frizz control conditioner, which worked ok. But I'm trying to head into more organic products, so I'm currently on my first bottles of Giovanni Smooth As Silk (doesn't help the frizz).

Thanks!
Originally Posted by mrivnie
I wash my hair almost every day. Every time I wash, I condition and I use a leave-in, and put in products. I make sure that I use sulfate free poos and no silicones.

Washing daily tends to strip my hair of nature moisture, I do a DT at least every 2 weeks. One thing that you might try is to put an oil on your hair at night (assuming you wash in the morning). Doing this has helped my hair...and it's not a lot of oil, only say 5 drops or so. You can use regular oil Extra Virgin OO. Or go fancier....sweet almond oil (it's also lighter)

The other thing that helps is to put on a cheap conditioner BEFORE you wash. You will get great lather without overstripping your hair. Then, condition as usual.

I did a DT with honey and EVOO. It was great and cheap, but MESSY. I really like the Jessicurl WDT, it's not messy...and I get great results.
Currently, using JC HCC, Too Shea, CK and CCSS, RR or LOOB or MOP-C.
CK is the one!!

as of 6/17/10 - I have to add Joico!

Pics at: http://public.fotki.com/hopetocurl/
pw:wheredacurls

We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names and each is a different color. But they all have to learn how to live in the same box. ~Anonymous

Life is full of oxymorons....and morons too. ~hopetocurl

Last edited by hopetocurl; 04-20-2008 at 02:33 PM.
Jason Lavender & Rosemary Curl Defining Cream is very nice. You can get it at Whole Foods or vitacost.com. It definitely smells like lavender and rosemary, but I think they are probably essential oils rather than "fragrance." I use it under a gel, but you could use it alone. It is rather moisturizing, has a reasonable amount of hold, but isn't crunchy.
2-something, modified CG, used to think my hair was straight until July 2007
Cleansing: V05 Passionfruit Smoothie (CO wash), Nexxus Therappe (gentle sulfate shampoo once in a while), Mastey Le Remouver (gentle clarifier once in a great while)
Conditioning: Robert Craig, John Masters Citrus & Neroli, Jessicurl WDT
Stylers: Oyin Shine and Define, Jason Lavender & Rosemary Curl Defining Cream, Herbal Essences Totally Twisted gel, Alagio Crazy Curl Balm
Hey all,... I'm wondering if anyone can recommend any organic, sans fragrance (it can have a smell, it just can't have 'fragrance' listed as an ingredient), products?
Originally Posted by enelya
I really like the Elucence conditioner - I think it's organic.

I've also had good luck with many of the Giovanni products: 50/50 shampoo; 50/50 rinse-out conditioner; tea treat shampoo (for scalp issues); and the leave-in conditioner.

Finally, I've had good luck with some Innersense products: pure inspiration daily conditioner, and quiet calm curl control. The texturizer was a bit too heavy for my 2B/3A fine hair, and the curl enhancing spray was nice but made my scalp itch for some reason.

My best organic recommendation is the Giovanni leave-in combined with the Innersense QCCC. Then I don't need a curl spray - I just re-wet as needed if my hair gets windblown or I go out in the rain.

I also really like the Ouidad botanical boost spray, but I'm not sure if it counts as "organic."
hair type: 2B/3A
low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab
winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CIAB + Curl Queen
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Giovanni air turbo mousse, its biodegradable ( even the bottle can be recycled ! )

It gives a lot of shine to the hair and smells so good !!!

http://www.amazon.com/Giovanni-Styli.../dp/B000FKHXBO

here are the ingredients:
Ingredients
Purified Water with Rosemary Oil ), Nettle Oil, Thyme Oil, Birch Leaf Oil, Chamomile Oil, Clary, Lavender, Coltsfoot Leaf, Yarrow Oil, Mallow, Horsetail Oil, PVP/VA Copolymer, Soybean Protein, Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Trace Minerals, Citric Acid (Corn), Hydroxymethylglycinate, Grapefruit Seed (Citrus Derived). (Certified Organic).
2c dark blonde,shoulder length, growing out henndigo!
I've found a couple of really good organic products that I like....
alfaparf's Splendore oil really helps with shine & frizzies, and the sublime sorbet works well with definition & hold without making my hair crunchy.
And I've been using some Nexxus Phyto Organic shampoo & conditioner--they're not specific for curls, but they don't make my hair frizzier.

Just thought I'd share...I'll try to get pics when I have a chance.
Giovanni air turbo mousse, its biodegradable ( even the bottle can be recycled ! )
Originally Posted by HalSa
I tried this and really liked it! I've been having trouble encouraging my curls and this really helped bring them out. They clumped together nicely with minimal frizz and nice body - and I think I even air dried that day. I'd say it's worth a shot!

I also ordered the Jason cream, but haven't received it yet. I'll try to remember to report back.

I appreciate the tips in this thread!
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Hope to curl is one of the best products I've ever used! I have struggled with frizz all my life and this is a Godsend for me!


Where can you get the sea salt spray from? I've been wanting to try some, but can't find any anywhere. But the salt might dry out your hair...
2c/3a some 3b/Thick/Fine texture?/High Porosity
Currently trying out the CG method again as of 1/3/12!

Current Routine:
Co-wash/RO: Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle
Low poo: Giovanni Tea Tree Triple Treat (when needed)
Products: LA Looks Sports Gel and Curly Kinks Coil Jam



Where can you get the sea salt spray from? I've been wanting to try some, but can't find any anywhere. But the salt might dry out your hair...
Originally Posted by Britney
John masters makes one, sold here on curlmart or at Whole Foods for like $16...sea salt is drying to hair, especially if used daily and a lot...but it's also excellent at making your curls pop. if you use it, it's good idea to use a great moisture conditioner and leave-in when using the sea salt spray and also to deep condition your hair regularily. In the past, I added a some sea salt to couple ounces of water and aloe vera juice for the 2 & 3 type curly heads at home, also worked on my 4 type coils, waves and curls but was more easily drying to my hair type. I did that one summer, once a week and two days before a deep condition, but stopped because we got great curls without the sea salt and I was worried about it being drying even with all the conditioning.

Personally I've found Water + Givoanni Direct Leave-InConditioner/Trader Joe Nourish Spa Conditioner to define curls very well and just layer a gel or something else for hold to keep the curls.

Last edited by madhuri_dixit_fan; 02-09-2009 at 11:24 PM.
wow, I am surpirsed to this thread resurrected But thanks so much for all the advice ladies! I actually work at Whole Foods now, so I've written down some of your suggestions and will see if we have any at work next time I am there.
wow, I am surpirsed to this thread resurrected But thanks so much for all the advice ladies! I actually work at Whole Foods now, so I've written down some of your suggestions and will see if we have any at work next time I am there.
Originally Posted by enelya
Jason Lavender & Rosemary Curl Defining Cream is very nice. You can get it at Whole Foods or vitacost.com. It definitely smells like lavender and rosemary, but I think they are probably essential oils rather than "fragrance." I use it under a gel, but you could use it alone. It is rather moisturizing, has a reasonable amount of hold, but isn't crunchy.
Originally Posted by ambrosia77
this is so awesome did not know Jason had curl cream!!!OR anyone @ whole foods.natural coops for that matter, I'll check online! YAY today I used Marc Anthony curl defining cream. eh i hate the chemicals it curled ok w/ diffuser though but id love to try the jason thanks a ton!

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