What do you think would happen to the people of Israel if they did not fight for their own right to independence? What would happen if they said, "Oh, okay. We'll move out of our own land and let in the third generation of the people who fled nearly a century ago. We'll give them our fish farms, our agricultural advances, our universities, our museums, our holy places. No problem. We'll just go to..."
Originally Posted by gardencurls
A wrong would be righted, that's what.

Two wrong do not make a right. Never have, never will.

I find it extremely sad that when a people undergo a great trauma, it does not prevent them inflicting similar trauma on others. And yet it happens again and again throughout our history.

Still doesn't make it right.
Originally Posted by wild~hair
What wrong would be "righted"? Explain the dynamics here. You sound like that senile old bat Helen Thomas (who is of Lebanese descent.) She's great with accusations, but what about solutions?

When you insist that Israelis have no rights to their homes, their communities, and their historical places aren't you taking the attitude toward Israelis that you accuse Israelis of having toward Palestinians? Is Poland supposed to "give Prussia back" to Prussia? Should Ukraine be a Soviet state? Should Ireland be part of the UK? Should Tibet be part of China?

If PLO groups like Fatah, then HAMAS shot rockets at your home, and murdered your family and friends for decades, wouldn't it get old?

So many lies...i.e. "A video at CNN with reporting by Sara Sidner from Gaza tells us "how a small child became a symbol of civilian casualties." Some of her narrative: "A scene no parent should ever have to endure"; "Four year-old Mahmoud Sadallah lies dead in the arms of a neighbor, a child of Gaza, another victim of an airstrike"; "we saw no evidence here of military activity." There's even a scene where Ms. Sidner reports having to flee where she is currently reporting because "there are airstrikes" and "rockets." Since Hamas doesn't have an air force, we're supposed to assume that Israel's military is responsible for Mahmoud's death.Hamas has once again apparently been caught faking an image of a dead Palestinian child--this time using a child likely killed by its own rocket fire and claiming that an Israeli attack was responsible. CNN's Sara Sidner ran a full report on the child's death, strongly implying that an Israeli bomb had been responsible.

The dead child was paraded before the cameras during the visit of Egyptian prime minister Hisham Kandil, who kissed the dead child in the presence of Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh. But even the New York Times was suspicious.

... the fact that Hamas and other terror groups were firing rockets throughout Friday morning while the IDF did not, plus the fact that over 100 rockets have fallen short in Gaza (both using past performance and IDF statistics as proof), and the fact that the shrapnel in the video matches almost exactly the shrapnel damage we have seen from rocket fire into Israel, and it is very clear: this child was killed by Gaza rocket fire, not by Israel.

According to the office of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 60 of the 703 rockets fired by Hamas and other terror groups since the start of the conflict have fallen on Palestinian civilians. The Israel Defense Force says that 99 rockets in total that were fired at Israel have hit Gaza itself in four days of conflict.

Several sources now report that the child was, in fact, killed by a Hamas rocket, not Israel. Those sources include the Palestinian Center for Human Rights."
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