I didnt like tresseme naturals, not much moisture or slip for my thick, dense hair. I didnt like VO5 either, had to use a lot of both of them. I use gvp conditioning balm now, I love it. I find that if I emulsify it with water in a pump bottle, the slip is amazing. Im also thinking of trying as I am coconut cowash for my scalp, regular conditioners dont work for me.