Thank you Korkscrew! I've been trying forever to get decent hair. No one ever compliments me on it lol so it's nice to get one for once I used the recoil today and it turned out great. I didn't use a leave in though because my hair is weighed down SO easily it's ridiculous. I ordered K Pak liquid reconstructor spray since it's advertised for fine hair to see if I can use that under the recoil instead of a leave in. The miracle leave in by Ion was too heavy for me even though it did make my hair soft :-/ but I choose the curls that recoil gave me over Ion. I'm gonna return it to Sally's this week, which is also when the joico spray should be arriving