Finally after years of searching and buying, I found what I think might be my combo I'm hesistant to declare them my outright holy grails because I've been fooled in the past with other products but I'm so excited! I had to share with my fellow curlies I used AG conditioner today, then after I got out of the shower I used re:coil and then flipped over and sprayed curl trigger a few times (about 5) in my hair and then plopped. I used both because recoil makes my curls defined but frizzy while curl trigger gives hold and frizz control but not as much curl definition (careful though too much makes for hard hair) and after diffusing a bit I got these results! So happy today!

Curl trigger + recoil = my HG??-imageuploadedbycurltalk1360254762.675766.jpg
Curl trigger + recoil = my HG??-imageuploadedbycurltalk1360254773.341267.jpg
Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity