It is frustrating for sure! If I use no product I still get the ringlets on the bottom, but the canopy is a fizzy mess of undefined curls. But, if I look at each strand, I can see them curling individually. Like the clumps won't stick together.

The first is product free and the second is with product.
Originally Posted by Julesonline
Your hair does look more uniform with product, but I think you're lucky in that your naked hair looks pretty much the same though curl pattern wise.
Originally Posted by Jessiebanana
Thx. I updated my post. I'm tired and had uploaded the wrong product free pic.

3A/B? A corkicelli mix of ringlets, spirals, helixes & s-shaped curls
Medium-fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity

Summer: pink; Winter: Blue; Year Round: green
Lo-Poo:Giovanni SAS sulfate free poo, L'Oreal Evercream CC
Co-wash: TNRV, VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea, TNNM
YTC, Nexxus Hydra-light w/ CNPF GVPCB, Biolage CB, TNNM, Giovanni SAS