Kathy, thanks so much for weighing in! It's definitely low-porosity; if I do the sink test, it never sinks. (Not if I leave it all day.) And it's hard to get products to absorb. But with long 3b curls that I only wash 1-2 times a week (and I only finger detangle in the shower, never with a comb or brush out of the shower), it does get tangled; and I take a longish shower when I cowash in order to let the condish sit, shave, things like that.

I find that if I use something I want to get rid of (like the Aubrey), my hair just ends up dry and piece-y; I can't get any clumps and I get stringy, 1980s curls. With something sightly better (like the Giovanni) I can get soft clumps; but I'd love to find something that really moisturizes and shines, the whole nine yards. I always get that if I DT, and I feel like, surely there has to be a RO that will do it in between DTs?

Thanks as ever for your good advice -- always appreciate it!
3b, fine, medium density, normal porosity
Wash: Deva No Poo, sometime Phytojoba, Avalon lemon when needs clarifying
Rinse-out: Deva One Condition, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening, Phytojoba (kinda heavy for my hair but good noisture)
Leave-in: Phytokeratine, CCCCL
Styling: Deva Coconut Supercream or their Wave Maker with a little CS over the top