Since coming on and learning how to take care of my hair, my curl pattern has really strengthened--so I don't look for hold in any product.

I avoid most chemicals, especially polyquats (so don't use CIAB.) I always end with a jelly product. My definition is gelatinous consistency without the chemicals. I think most of the products in my signature might be of interest (at least the ones that you haven't tried.)

I'm currently trying out the Organicals Gels (Curl Defining and Touchably Soft--which would both fall into that category. I've only had them since mid January, so haven't gotten to use them in other then dry, cold weather. So far, I like them and would repurchase.

I am the one and will pm you.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix