Have u tried a curl cream and serum? I have fine hair so I always got for a curl cream that feels like a conditioner. (No mousse, gel etc.)

I cream as soon as I get out the shower. Wrap hair in a towel. When its not soaking I put serum in and let it air dry a little. THEN try twisting sections around your fingers to create spirals. DON'T TOUCH YOUR HAIR! Until almost dry - then I diffuse for a few minutes (medium heat, low power and don't move it around). This gives me very soft spirals/ waves.

If I want big curls I use a gel and add it instead of serum. Do the same as above and when it's dry I scrunch out the crunch with my hands....

Hope this helps!

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