I got a sample of Kathy's gel! It was the first thing I tried but didnt get great results. I kept my routine the same as I have the last few weeks (lopoo, Darcy's pumpkin RO and LI) and then used the okra gel instead of CK and LAL gel) My hair looked ok overall but not as good as other days - it didnt dry as fast and it felt heavy and kind of grimy, and by the end of day 2 it was a hot mess. When i washed it today it felt very dry and crunchy in my hands - something I hadn't felt before.

Anyway I am sure I am just not using it right. Those of you that love it.. what do you suggest?
3A/2C fine, normal porosity & elasticity, medium high density

Current products:
YTCucs Color Protection Low poo
GVP Conditioning Balm
Random gels - not sure which ones I like, if any at this point!

HG Summer Routine:
poo - TMW Hydrate
RO & LI - Darcy's Pumpkin Seed
Leave in Products: CHSCK & LALMG

Currently trying to figure out a winter routine and transition to a less harsh "poo" for summer.