SERIOUSLY bad hair days. I even broke down and used a bit of oil to seal; not helpful.

Nothing seems to be preventing frizz, poor curl retention and just plain ugly.

Using: SN and CH low poos; or Yes to Cukes. TN conditioner or Yes to Cukes conditioner. Deva foam and some Volumax gel over that. I get frizz at t he top; if the top looked like my nice spirals at t he bottom, I would be happy.

No glycerin. I'm stumped.