I give her 3000 idol points for using the term "thought police". It's one of my personal favorites.

"I recall that during my freshman year of college at the University of Kentucky in the mid-90s the administration enacted a language code. This code was to be used by the students as a way to communicate in and out of the classroom. The code was intended to help instill sensitivity in the student body and encourage them to refer to ethnic and social groups in a politically correct manner. I wrote a paper about this language code for one of my classes and I think the term "thought police" was used. I was never a big fan of political correctness. While the intention is good (giving people a neutral, non-hostile, set of words and phrases to use when referring to groups of people) I think it instead creates confusion and frustration which in turn increases hostility.

How many times have you heard someone say "Indian" and then correct themselves in a hostile tone, "Oh right, now they want us to call them Native Americans." Would it surprise you to know that most of the Indians that I know do not like the term Native American? So who comes up with these terms and why?"

All Things Cherokee: Culture Articles - What's in a Name? Indians and Political Correctness

(I'm guessing it was a specific type of person, out to change the world for the better, regardless of what other people thought)
Originally Posted by Fifi.G

sorry Fifi, (I'm not referring to you directly, but the people you are referring to) but if taking a little bit of time to be considerate of the others is too frustrating for you, well I vote we move all those people to their own island. Chances are the hostility was already there. That is no excuse.

As for the terms, now that's a different conversation.
Originally Posted by scrills
I was thinking about how it must have felt for a person sitting in a class, who identifies as proud Cherokee Indian, being told that Indian is no longer acceptable and the term Native American should be used when I said that.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G
I agree that calling someone Cherokee, Sioux, Cree, etc. is preferable to Native American, whenever possible. Just like calling someone French, Belgian, Swiss, etc. Is preferable to European or Kenyan, Sudanese, Liberian, etc. to African. But sometimes it's not possible or you need to make a generalization.

It seems the author of that aricle's main reasons for supporting the continued use of the term "Indian" is bc 1) it's been used for so long and 2) to object would make others uncomfortable. OK, not valid reasons for anything IMO.

Then the author says either term (Indian or Native American) are fine. But you (Fifi.G) said NA was too cumbersome/PC. But the Cherokee author, herself, said NA is OK.

I have to disagree w/ Rush Limbaugh here (), the legal term for ppl born in this country are "natural-born citizens" vs. "naturalized citizens (born in other countries and later become citizens here). So there is no conflict w/ "native American."

Again...American Indian Movement...United Negro College Fund...Nat'l Association for the Advancement of Colored People... the International Ladies Garment Workers Union...marginalized ppls frequently get stuck w/ objectifying/offensive names.

But seriously, this isn't India.