Which conditioners? I'm afraid I missed something... but whatever you do, stay away from Suave, it can wreck CG, especially in the beginning... If you can afford it get one of "Nature's Gate" from a health food store. If not, try VO5 Kiwi & Lime Clarifying for washing and Shea Cashmere for the length. If you're hair's on the dry side the last one might work for both.