My curl doesn't fall out at the end of the day, so for that I don't really need the hold. However, I find that I need something to keep the frizzies at bay, which is where the hold factors in. I thought that I needed a higher hold gel for the summer humidity, but in fact I just needed a better gel that was more moisturizing without proteins.
Cincinnati Ohio>>>Coarse protein sensitive 3a, Jessicurl WDT as a leave in, Biotera gel, White Boots, PW= coffeecurls

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