I find that I dont need any hold in my hair at all because my curls are dense and really full. I prefer soft hair, so I generally use cream stylers and oil instead of gel. But some do get really soft hair with certain gels I heard, but not everyone needs them.
Super Thick corkscrews and waves. LOVE Elucence MBC, Giovanni 50/50 condish, Qhemet Products, V05 Calming Chamomile Tea Therapy condish, Jessicurl WDT. These are my official HG's that I love oh so much