hair shrinkage

Hey everyone,
Thanks for all the advice, and because of it I now LOVE my curls The curly pudding was the absolute best product for lengthing my curls (and talk about defintion!) I received so many compliments and envious stares, I will never relax again! Ladydanicing, what's the deal with cyclopetasiloxane? I am doing the CG routine. I just switched to using Jessicurl's too shea extra moisturinzing conditioner for a daily wash and I noticed a big difference in the curl defintion. I hate to ask another question, but does anyone know if there will be any unwanted effects if I use a leave in conditioner before using the curly pudding (stringy curls or non clumping?)
I am not entirely sure that the Curly Pudding is CG friendly, because it has protein which I assume will build up if not shampooed out regularly.
I use curls coconut to max conditoner to wash with
Originally Posted by LBGsk8tr

I just caught this. This has nothing to do with your shrinkage, but I noticed that you said that you use Coconut to the Max Conditoner to wash. I am going to assume since you said wash that you are on CG? If you are, this is not a good conditoner if you are following this routine. It has the evil cone, Cyclopetasiloxane . If you use it, you need sulfate to wash it out. I bought it and used it, thinking that it was CG friendly.

ETA: I know that Curls line is coming out with a CG friendly conditioner (think it's the one made with green tea)/ line to meet the needs of those following the routine. I may give this a try in the far future.
Originally Posted by Ladydncing
I have this and tried it yesterday and reviewed it on the products review board with ingredients listed. It is CG friendly and is really good - similar to Elucence.
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St.Louis Blue,
I think that our hair texture may be quite similar. What do you use to hold your curls in place during the day? I have tried fantasia ic gel which worked great but I had a ton of shrinkage. My hair is super short already, and trust me I don't need it to look shorter
In all honesty, LBG, the most important components to keeping my hair in place are (1) having a good haircut, and (2) having enough length to hold it down. I am vigilant in my daily haircare, because well conditioned hair frizzes less, and only gel will transform my undifferentiated mass of hair into defined clumps, but no doubt about it, it's the cut and the length that are by far the most critical components in getting my hair to even suggest that it has a place, let alone getting it to stay in place. No products in the world have ever overcome a jacked up, unthoughtful haircut for me, at least not for longer than the time it takes to air-dry.

Right now, I have an excellent cut, but the top and temples are not long enough to really hold themselves down (consequence of my transition over the last year, too many days of pulled-back hair, and then an extremely bad haircut last summer), so all I can do is rock a bushier look while those regions grow out.

As for products, I use a 3-layer approach: start with soaking wet hair out of the shower, leave-in conditioner (currently Devacurl One Condition); Devacurl Angell applied in sections, and Devacurl Set it Free spritzed on at the end. This last product is a new addition to the rotation, and has turned out to be EXCELLENT at helping my curls hold up in the summer humidity. Angell stretches my curls out some, but not nearly as much as the Curly Pudding does. If for some reason I am looking for maximum stretching, I do use CP and then shampoo it out.

Anyway, on regular days, I then shake my head from side to side to get bigger clumps, and then I let my hair air-dry. I condition-wash it twice a week, once followed by a DT with heat, and once preceded by a coconut oil treatment.

If I need to make any adjustments after it's dried, I do that with a little (like a pea-size) of plain shea butter that's been mixed with a little bit of jojoba oil (I don't mix it up every day, I mix up a big jar of shea butter in which I've melted some jojoba oil, and then carry a pomade-tin-size in my purse).

My hair isn't always "in place," and is definitely fuzzier than it was when I used texturizers and silicones. However, it is the healthiest it's ever been, and still looks pretty good, and I can't imagine going back.

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