How do you create a curly do with volume?

I recently just got in touch with my curls so am still learning how to manage it. I have been using a conditioner in the shower to comb my hair, then afterwards been using kinky-curly's leave in conditioner followed by its custard which leaves my curls defined but rather hard and without volume, when my hair dries I fluff it up from the roots using Paul Mitchel's serum which adds volume but unfortunatly a bit of frizz. I asked my hairstylist for some advice and she recommended trying the custard then the leave-in conditioner which I did today and it created better curls but as usual not enough volume. So far I've learned not at all put a towel to my head when I come out of the shower and not tassle my hair when putting the custard or leave-in conditioner as doing that creates frizz but I still can't figure out how to create volume without ruffling my hair once its dried. Can someone please give me some advice on how I can do that? I was just watching a video online on how to manage curly hair and the presenter said she avoids gels so what else is there except serums and gels that you use to define curls? Btw I haven't ever yet used a defuser, could that help?
What about using lust a leave in.This may also help: diffuser might help also.
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i think its the KCCC thats causing you not to have any volume.
so like flower princess suggested, maybe you could just use a leave in. if i use gel or a heavy styler like KCCC i have 0 volume, so i usually just use a leave in.
I use kccc and achieve volume (sometimes more than I'm yet comfortable with) by shaking my head like a rockstar after applying the kccc. It helps separate the curls and keep them from just laying flat.
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So yesterday I only used the conditioner and I had volume but my curls weren't defined, today I did just the custard and my hair had volume and curls were better defined but not enough. Today I'll take juicedabouthair advise and shake my hair like a rockstar, lol, after putting the custard and conditioner on. Thanks for the tips guys.
What you have to do is when your hair is soaking wet , apply duck bill clips to lift the roots and create volume. Then you take them out when your hair is dry. Check out the curlisto website. they have a styling demo for kinky/curly hair and they show how to do this technique.
I used some of the tips my curlisto like mixing the custard and conditioner together and applying that through my hair with my hands and used the earlier advice of shaking my hair like a rockstar and it rather worked well. It certainly gave my hair better bounce and more volume then before. I will try to buy some duck bills and a defuser for my hairdryer to continue with the tips of curlisto..I found though they push for too many products. I rather am ok with what I have so far in those terms but the other tips were great.

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