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I am from New Orleans, LA and I am black! Despite everyone automatically assuming I am creole and that's why my hair looks the way it does or that I must have some "Indian" in me I am black. We moved to the N.O. when I was almost 3 years old. My parents are from Arkansas.

However, my mom is bi-racial (black/caucasian) and has 2a/2b hair. Which attributes to my 3b-4a hair (mostly 3c I think). What's funny is that my ex-husband is black (not a mix of anything) as well and my son has 3a/3b hair. Boy her genes are STRONG!!
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As my name suggests, I'm from the Bahamas. My paternal grandfather has English ancestry. Paternal grandmother is of some Indian descent. Not exactly sure what but the island she is from constantly has digs finding Arawak artifacts. Maternal grandfather is black but his last name is French and there are some relatives with European features and dark skin. For instance my mom is a caramel complexion with blue-grey eyes, cousin has I think type 2 curls. My maternal grandmother comes from an island that had the largest slave population and I'm inclined to believe there was some mingling with the 'masters' because she and some her ancestors from family accounts were pale. My family is REALLY mixed up. And we continue to mix with other interesting mixes. It has some interesting results too. A cousin on my Dad's side - her mom is the same mix as my dad - she married a full black man and their kids came out looking straight Indian. As for me, I think I have 3c curls. Sometimes I think its 4a then my flat mate gives me the eye and shows me what 4a.

Wow. I haven't checked the board in a while and came back to find all these responses. I have to say that is usually the reaction I get when I tell people what my background is. I agree with the wise woman (I forgot who) said that Haitians vs. Domincans is like twins fighting.

Colonlialsim is *****... and clearly has effected all people of color in one way or another. I live in New York and funnily enough, Dominicans AND Haitians come up to me speaking either Spanis, French and Haitian creole ALL THE TIME. Apparently I look enough like both populations.

Etiher way, I'm happy to be uniquely me and happy to be so...
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Hey errbody - I'm mixed too! I identify as Haitian-American. I have 4a/3c hair and both of my parents are from Haiti. My paternal grandmother is very pale with green eyes...The one time I questioned her on her background when I was a child, I asked, Grandma, are you white? and she said what do you mean? I'm Haitian! I figured that she didn't understand and I just assumed that race was an American thing. That was that. It was enough for me and I didn't ask her again. I appreciate that from her today. To me, I see her expressing solidarity. She's not perfect. She really doesn't like my hair...but in any case, we are all one in the same. Same island, same culture...Dominicans who deny our shared roots need to quit ;I Kudos to those of you who are embracing your neighbors.
4a/3c Product Junkie here!

Holy Grail - KCCC of course

Really interested in more natural products but don't really like to mix them myself.

I think my hair LOVES oil but need to use them more.

Have done a Henna treatment once and am hoping to do another one soon.
BP: Totally understand what you are saying petit. My grandmother asked me why I had stopped combing my hair... LOL...So funny
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My Dad's Lebanese/Syrian (Arabic) and My mom's African-American/Native-American/White? (Polish/Irish/German)

I just call my self Arab/American though, far easier
Hi kinkycoily, how do you manage to straighten your hair like that and keep it straight and nice ?
The few times I straightened my hair with a flat iron it stayed nice not more than an hour.

I'm black. African American to be more exact.

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I'm Egyptian-American. I was born in the Los Angeles, CA and I've lived in Orlando, FL (my home sweet hometown) from 2000-2007. I thought I was gonna stay there forever until we moved to Sterling, VA on July 2007. I still go to Orlando as often as I can (once a year minimum) because my 3 BFFs are there. Sooo, yeah, I've moved around a lot....but I'm officially here to stay! I love VA because you get to see all 4 seasons for real while in FL you only see 2 (hot) seasons. Plus, the landscaping isn't flat at all here. The only con about moving to VA would be that I'm far away from my friends but I have friends here, too

"Smile...just do it."

3aMii, medium porosity, medium to low elasticity

Shampoo & Conditioner: HE Hydralicious Featherweight
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DT: GF Triple Nutrition

My mom is black and my dad is black so i guess that makes me...black! Lolol. And from Trinidad...trini trini trini born and bred!! :-)
4a/b, fine to medium, high porosity.
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African American. Texas born and raise. Currently in Dallas.
3c/4a Hair
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ethiopian,greek,italian,jewish (dad) native american;cherroke,creek,chickasaw and irish(mom)

i love being multiracial haha.
I'm half Filipino and half African-American. Mom's from the P.I. and Dad's from PA.
Last Relaxer: July '08
Learning to nurture: 3 heads of 3b/c, 4a/b/z curls

How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong -- because someday you will have been all of these.
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Both my parents are black. Their paternal grandfathers are half native-american.
I'm European, born and partly raised!

My mother is white from Stockholm, Sweden and my father is black from Chicago, USA so I guess I'm really European/American.

I'm a 3c/4a.

One sister is 3b and the other 4a.

Me and my sisters:

Sister to the right is European/African
I'm European, born and partly raised!

My mother is white from Stockholm, Sweden and my father is black from Chicago, USA so I guess I'm really European/American.

I'm a 3c/4a.

One sister is 3b and the other 4a.

Me and my sisters:

Sister to the right is European/African
Originally Posted by ninadef
You'll all beautiful...

I found, especially since moving here to South Carolina (from California BTW), that many don't understand when I say I'm Puerto Rican, that it's like another planet or something!
Most of us from the Caribbean (OK, so I was born in New York), are very mixed.

Some look at my parents - Mom has very fine (I'd say around 2C-3A) hair, and Dad has thick, wiry waves - and wonder...
Though I've got Dad's eyes, people will look at me and say, "You look so much like your Mom, but how come your hair's so curly?" Like my super big and thick 3C-4A hair is some sort of mystery creature...

That's just how it is among my family, aunts, uncles and cousins... some are fair-skinned, some are dark, some straight-haired with curly children...

It is what it is... I want to tell them, "You try decoding the human genome!"

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I'm African American, but mixed on both sides. My dad's a Louisiana Creole, and my mom is from North Carolina. She's black with Indian (Coharie and Lumbee) and part white. I was an army brat, and have lived in Arkansas, North Carolina, and Germany, before moving to Texas, where I'm still today.

Can'tFightCurls, I've also noticed how people of such diverse backgrounds can end up looking the same lol. I've had two Dopplegangers (people that look eerily like you, to where it creeps you out), and one was a biracial black/Mexican girl (who had a HUGE crush on my little brother lol).

The other is one of my best friend's little sister, who is biracial Irish/Filipino. My friend's sister is the weirdest, because she looks EXACTLY like me, but with slightly lighter skin and brown hair (mine is black). Her curls even fall similarly lol. I haven't met her in person, she lives in Australia with her dad, who is Irish (he's where the 3c curls come from lol).

Funny story though, I remember the first time going over to my friend's house, and the look on her mom's face lol, and then I saw the pictures of her, and it was seriously like me in another dimension, playing in Australia with brown hair at 8 years old. My friend was like, "I couldn't figure out why I liked you so much, so fast, and I knew it would weird you out when you saw the pictures lol". It was disturbing in a really, really good way, but very Twilight Zone.

My sister gets asked if she's biracial (white/black) all the time since she has really fine 3c/4a hair that's a warm reddish/brown color and lighter skin.

My older brother 3b/c got Samoan jokes when he was a kid, and some guy at school used to call him "Cambodian Curls" lol. Not a lot of research done by that guy, since I've never seen a Cambodian with curly hair.

My younger brother gets it more than anyone though lol! He's very dark, with very red skin, his hair is 3a but super coarse, and he has keen features. His friends come from all over the world and are amused by how he looks even though he's black American. His nickname is Muhammad Mufasa Curry. He's very embarrassed by his hair, and he keeps it nearly bald. He wanted an afro SO BAD, but it just fell lol, and formed it's own texture. He now wants a boxcut, yes, like Kid from Kid 'n Play lol. He's willing to attempt this with hairspray and gel, and I can't wait to see the results lol.
I always follow the rule with NA ancestory that unless you are involved in the tribe or at least know which one it is, it's probably not even worth including in a litany of what you are since it's probably less than 1/16th (unless of course there are extenuating circumstances like how your relatives passed). And I'm glad I was able to edumacate you. lol This trend of claiming NA heritage was especially bad during the 90's. Everybody and their momma was a descendant of a "Cherokee princess". And I believe there was an episode of Oprah where she exposed with DNA testing that the amount of black Americans with Native American ancestory were probably less than what many families believed. And I imagine the same holds true for other Americans.

Here's a funny blog written by a half NA guy about this trend:
And I agree with his assesment of why it is happening. And I certainly didn't mean to imply that all Native Americans look alike. Sorry if that's how it sounded. BUT I don't think we can ignore that there is a general "look" of certain people. It would be hard to deny, for example, that most people of African descent have some curl to their hair. But this should by no means = ignoring that outliers exist (straight hair is very possible on "black" people) and that there are even wide variety among the majority (like how "curl" can be anything from 2A to 4B). And of course the media doesn't always show even this variety.
Originally Posted by KinkyKeeper
I actually kind of disagree about ignoring it if your family isn't active in it. A lot of times, black people would get thrown out things once the government (and funding) got involved. My mom's family is involved with the tribe, and I didn't really acknowledge or relate to it until she dragged me to a pow-wow lol, and then it seemed more real.

faithful7 mentioned North Carolina, and there is a HUGE community of people who are mixed with black/white/Indian, but still consider themselves Indian as well. I only identify as black, but after going to the pow-wow, I acknowledge the Indian part.

KinkyKeeper, you're right about it being rarer than people think though. There was a special about African American blacks on PBS, and most of the people who thought they had Indian blood really had white blood. I think the Indian blood is more embraceable because being told you look the way you do because someone raped your great-grandma is disturbing.

At the same time, I think Cherokees have scared black people away from their other roots. They don't want Lumbees (who are basically Cherokees that intermixed with blacks and whites and didn't go on the trail of tears) to get national recognition lol. I remember one lady said, "Cherokees don't have nappy hair and green eyes", which is a typical Lumbee look.

One of my Grandma's friends went to register herself and her kids and the person at the desk tried to tell her she wasn't Indian, but there was a picture of her grandpa on the wall in the place lol!

If people freak out too much about amounts, the culture is gonna die with people rejecting the culture completely because they identify as something else. On my dad's side, his mom is part Atakapa Indian, but they're completely clueless about it!

This is from the official website http://www.atakapa-ishak.com/

Descendants of the Atakapa Indians exist unrecognized and misnamed under various names of choice like Creoles, Creole Indians, and Creoles of Color. The term "colored" has clouded the Atakapa's racial identity. Atakapa descendants show a wide range of complexions which is attributed to the genes for light or brown complexions. Many Atakapa no longer know their correct racial identity.

This picture is from 1735. It shows how much they intermingled with black people even back then. They used to take in runaways, and even help them escape lol!


This is an excerpt from Slavery in Early Louisiana by David P. Rider. The whole essay is here:


Incidents of Indian and African collaboration occurred often enough and with sufficient mayhem inflicted on the colonists" plantations that colonial officials quickly grew alarmed. Prior to the arrival of Africans, runaway slaves usually just returned to their hometowns to resume a normal life. But as the slave population swelled and became more diverse, groups of runaway Indians and Africans often stayed together in makeshift villages. They openly resisted slavery and the French colonial regime by killing horses, pigs, and cattle, stealing property from settlers, and wreaking miscellaneous acts of vandalism and arson. It was on the heels of one such incident in 1726 that the Attorney General of the colony, Francois Fleuriau, urged the Supreme Council to "take prompt and sweeping action against runaway slaves" by offering bounties to "neighborhood Indians" willing to apprehend the fugitives.

The bounties didn't work. After all, groups of runaways invariably included Indians, and most other Indians simply refused to sell them or their African compatriots back into slavery, no matter what the incentive.

One Indian slave named Sancousy discovered a village of runaways in 1727. Having misplaced his owner's ox, he decided to vacate the plantation and happened upon fifteen African and Indian fugitives living together in a camp they called Natanapalle. They reportedly possessed a veritable arsenal, a smorgasbord of guns and ammunition sufficient to resist a small army.

The arrest of other runaways who had seen Natanapalle and its cache of arms eventually influenced Governor Etienne Boucher de Perier, who took over from Bienville in 1726, to recommend that trade in Indian slaves be stopped entirely. According to the Governor, "these Indian slaves being mixed with our negroes may induce them to desert with them, as has already happened, as they may maintain relations with them which might be disastrous to the colony when there are more blacks."

Governor Perier's remarks are something of an understatement. Not only did Indian and African runaways "maintain relations" with each other, they banded together on assorted community-service projects that included raiding livestock, stealing guns and ammunition, and burning the occasional plantation house. Once a mixed group of runaways even attacked a public executioner whose chores included hanging recalcitrant Indians and Africans.

I don't get why people think claiming Indian blood is putting on airs or something. I think it sucks that someone might roll their eyes at you if you say you're part Indian. Being mixed with something doesn't make you any less black.
well - im new ( todays my first day ) and im all CARRIBEAN BABIIE =D lol

im haitain jamaican and dominican and BROOKLYN of course! born in brooklyn but carribean raised

& i (think) my hair is 3c
This is interesting!

Not sure if you've all caught the premier of the " Human Family Tree" on NatGeo.

It was a very interesting show on how and where we originated. It proved to say, we all come from the same place, same DNA. We are all the same, regardless of race, color etc. Today, we all are labeled but back then there weren't any labels.
Based on the thorough research, we are all black. We all come from Africa, regardless of color and features. Eventually, what the research demonstrated was how the African population migrated to all parts of the world, and as a result, became what countries are now. If you are interested to know where and how it all started, check out the video. Its very much worth it.

So, the countries I am now labeled as is, Dominican Republic. I'm a Dominican American, born and partly raised in the States. My great grandparents were Spaniard and native Indian.
I can go into depth as to why the Caribbean/ Latin mix, but that's another topic!

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