shoulder length hair is NOT long!!!!!

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Hee, my hair is just past SL and I described it the other day as "really long." Ha. Oh well...
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My hair is APL stretched. I don't consider it long. Whilst relaxed my hair reached BSL. I thought it was "almost long". I consider mid-back length and beyond long. But that's just me. Perspective is everything.
My hair is past shoulder length and while it's the longest I've ever had in recent memory, pictures clearly show that it's not long. LOL

Once it starts getting around the armpit to bra strap area then I'll start calling something long.
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+1 for the ladies who never thought SL was long. And people IRL who actually know about hair care definitely say medium length. You definitely need that term if you are going to the salon to get a haircut, lol! Even shoulder length is a common term for a hair length, but most don't call it long, at least not that I've heard.
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"long hair" is relative. It depends on what you've always known. If all you see are short cuts or damaged hair, then SL hair will seem very long. My SO thought my relaxed SL hair was long, but I know better after being on hair boards.
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I wouldn't consider shoulder length long for a lot of reasons. When I was relaxed my hair was shifting from APL-BSL and everyone said I had long hair. I've only been growing my natural hair out for a year now and my lowest layer is in between CBL and APL.

So...if I can get my hair past SL in a year, then that's not long because it's only a year of good hair care.
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just below [top of] shoulder length hair can look longish, depending on how it's grown out and cut, and on how long a person's face and neck is, etc.

round face, no neck, and a one-lenth bob will look between shortish to medium length.

thin, oval or triangular face with long neck, and the same cut will look much longer.

it's all relative and really not a big deal.

and lets be honest. to many black women who have been permed since they were little girls, to achieve top of shoulder relaxed hair is a feat and does seem like it's long when the alternative was years of broken off and damaged hair.
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it's all relative and really not a big deal.

and lets be honest. to many black women who have been permed since they were little girls, to achieve top of shoulder relaxed hair is a feat and does seem like it's long when the alternative was years of broken off and damaged hair.
Originally Posted by rainshower

THAT'S what i was tying to point out... well the fact that i think it's sad.

and no, it's not a big deal... it's just that the bolded, combined w/ that girl's overall attitude has been getting to me lately. i haven't seen her in a few days so i'm over.
If she wants to brag let her brag. Maybe the length that her hair has reached doesn't really run in her family, leaving her to be happy about it.
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If she wants to brag let her brag. Maybe the length that her hair has reached doesn't really run in her family, leaving her to be happy about it.
Originally Posted by FaithfulTf
So... do you not look at dates before replying to threads?

The fact that I was emailed about a reply to a thread that I created before I could even legally drink... did you really feel I still felt passionate about this seven years later? Because apparently I stopped caring about this days after I posted it.

If there's anyone from old school CurlTalk out there watching... hi guys!!!
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If she wants to brag let her brag. Maybe the length that her hair has reached doesn't really run in her family, leaving her to be happy about it.
Originally Posted by FaithfulTf
So... do you not look at dates before replying to threads?

The fact that I was emailed about a reply to a thread that I created before I could even legally drink... did you really feel I still felt passionate about this seven years later? Because apparently I stopped caring about this days after I posted it.

If there's anyone from old school CurlTalk out there watching... hi guys!!!
Hi Keeny,


Great to hear from you. Most of the few of us who are left from the Hey Day are ready to jump ship because half the time the posting doesn't work.


The poster probably didn't notice the date. I think her point was valid though. I was just thinking of this topic the other day because of a conversation I had. As I meet more black women from different areas, I'm noticing how different our perception about hair can be. I don't consider shoulder length hair as long hair. I always thought it was an easy milestone if a person wanted it because I didn't realize there were people who struggle for years to get there.. Probably as the poster mentioned because of the genetics of my family. I can't think of anyone who hasn't had at least shoulder length hair at some point. It's what you grow up around is your reality I guess.
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Hi Keeny,


Great to hear from you. Most of the few of us who are left from the Hey Day are ready to jump ship because half the time the posting doesn't work.


The poster probably didn't notice the date. I think her point was valid though. I was just thinking of this topic the other day because of a conversation I had. As I meet more black women from different areas, I'm noticing how different our perception about hair can be. I don't consider shoulder length hair as long hair. I always thought it was an easy milestone if a person wanted it because I didn't realize there were people who struggle for years to get there.. Probably as the poster mentioned because of the genetics of my family. I can't think of anyone who hasn't had at least shoulder length hair at some point. It's what you grow up around is your reality I guess.
Originally Posted by Addee
Heyy Addee! 27-year-old-lived-life-met-new-people-and-expanded-er-worldview keenylicious totally agrees with you. I'm definitely not defending something that i said when I was 20, had a lot of different (and problematic) opinions back then that I definitely wouldn't agree with now.

I just thought it was funny seeing a thread revived from so long ago. I see nothing much has changed in regards to new poster. As you can see, I haven't much better with how bluntly I tend to express myself.

Anywho... hope all is well!
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Hey Keeny - just another old schooler popping in to say hi. I also came back just recently after being away for a year (and was pretty inactive before that), but this place has tumbleweeds now - it was good seeing your name!
Hey vegas! Man, I miss the old days sometimes.

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