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rigarella 10-23-2013 03:28 AM

Will colour ruin my curls?
Hello Curly Ladies,

I have recently fallen back in love with my curly hair after straightening it for about 5/6 years.

Over the years I think I have been blonde then red then dark then red and back ..... It was quite a journey.

Since I have been back to my natural curl I have not dyed my hair, but it needs doing but I am worried that I will ruin my curl that they may flatten out.

Does anyone have any tips or advice?

Thanks All

Brenna84 10-23-2013 03:51 AM

I just got myhair dyed. its made it look fuller. I have not yet washed my hair yet so I can't say what it looks like when I style it.

rigarella 10-23-2013 06:27 AM

Have the curls flattened at all ? this is what I am worried about.

Brenna84 10-23-2013 12:20 PM

I can't say for certain. I know henna relaxes your curls. for sure.

Firefox7275 10-23-2013 04:22 PM

Depends how much damage is already present and how much you cause during processing - best thing is to run strand tests initially on shed plughole hair.

Blueblood 10-26-2013 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Brenna84 (Post 2217946)
I can't say for certain. I know henna relaxes your curls. for sure.

Henna doesn't not definitely relax your curls.

pprMACHEheart 10-26-2013 05:17 PM

I was afraid of the same problem before I went blond, but I had never previously dyed my hair before. All in all, it does depend on the previous state of your hair and how much damage will occur when coloring, as it was stated before.

My hair has been fine since coloring it and I would do it again, just be attentive to your curls.

GlamourCurls 11-04-2013 06:37 AM

What color are you going from and to?

I find once it's been bleached I lose all curl pattern

Korkscrew 11-05-2013 05:33 AM

It's a long post ...

Not only does every head of hair react differently to bleach and dye, the reaction for one person can be different over time. No one can guarantee you won't get damage.

It's a chemical process and so it has the potential to affect the integrity of the hair, like dryness is one common complaint. But there's a really good chance your hair will react without putting up a fuss if you're only lightening your hair a little (less developer will be used). You won't know till you try, really.

As already stated, you minimize the risk of damage or alteration in curl pattern by starting with un-damaged (or virgin) hair. Then (I think) GC hinted at the fact that the more drastic the lift in color, the more your hair is likely to react in negative ways. (Like an extreme would be starting w/very dark brown or black hair w/a goal of platinum blond.)

I have naturally brown hair and at one point bleached it to golden blond. That made it stretch out and die. Now that I think of it, even a chemical relaxer couldn't do that to my curls! On another occasion I bought an otherwise innocent looking box of Clairol Natural Instincts semi-perm. color and ... parts of my hair went straight. I suspect it was an error re: strength of the developer. Then found out a bunch of their other colors had just been recalled. At that point I decided to do the whole henna thing.

Henna is an option but it aint for everyone. It smells like a 5-mile hike through a cattle farm pasture, including cow "patties" stuck to your heels. It's messy and takes a long time to apply if you have a lot of hair, you have to keep it on a long time and then there's a learning curve if you expect a very specific color result. If you don't buy body art quality, unadulterated henna you not only risk ruining your curls, but your hair in general.

That said, henna is much more gentle than commercial dyes and can really strengthen hair and makes otherwise high-porosity hair shinier (it results in lower porosity hair, usually). It's all-natural and generally safe to use. Since it coats the hair, it can loosen curls for some people (the looser the curl, the bigger the risk, it seems), especially if full-head applications are repeated. Theoretically you can avoid that by adding amla to your mix and only coloring the roots after the first app. The result is pretty permanent (some methods will lift the color some), and it doesn't show up well on dark hair.

Brenna84 11-05-2013 03:03 PM

I have brownish black hair that is greying.

I had my hair dyed black and violet red. they did not use bleach and didn't notice too much relaxing of curl, but I did have my hair cut.

the same as it was when i t was longer (5 inch cut)

which is hair thats 2a to 3b. seriously, thats why some days I just want a perm lol

so hard gettin my curls to just get along

Chloe_s_Mom 12-24-2013 08:27 PM

I've been disappointed when
a semi permanent made my hair feel dry and definitely straighter. I applied it to fresh growth hair with a small amount of previously dyed ends. I went darker than my natural colour.

I've tried many different dyes over the years, usually having to completely cut out the dyed parts after a few years (my hair is fine, and at some point will no longer hold the darker dye). I have yet to try one that made my hair feel nice to the touch, tho some seem worse at sometimes than others.

I keep eyeing the henna option but the thought of cutting it out after taking so long to grow out from a pixie is a bit overwhelming.

gemima 01-02-2014 08:17 AM

It is possible for me to bleach the life out of my hair or colour it and keep my curls however it does takes a lot of care, patience and commitment on my part.
I have a hair lightening/colouring routine that works really well for my hair and I wouldn't dream of letting a hairdresser touch it, but I've been doing it myself for many years and it's taken some trial and error, so I'm not sure that's great advice for everyone to follow.

Basically I use a very low volume developer a few times over a week or a fortnight, then I'll give my hair a break and do treatments or hair masks for a week or so before doing another couple of low volume processes to achieve the shade I'm aiming for. If I want to go darker I'll go gradually as well, although the logistics for darkening are a bit different to lightening.You get the idea. I try to lift or darken slowly so I can monitor the hair and treat/condition it accordingly. It might take a few months to achieve the colour I want but I don't mind, I enjoy doing it. I accept that it's a bit high maintenance for others though. But I'm just saying it is possible to keep the curls. :)

Brenna84 01-03-2014 03:04 AM

Gemima - how would you recommend gradually darkening? your method sounds nice. maybe gradually lightening and then dying it a nice red color hehe

Firefox7275 01-03-2014 06:40 AM

Dark dyes usually do contain a low volume developer anyway. I can't see any benefit to hair health in going darker gradually, you are just repeatedly exposing your hair and scalp to harsh and damaging alkaline chemicals.

Lifting is somewhat different to going dark. Lighter you are removing the melanin pigment and blowing holes in the structure of the hair, so damaging both cuticle and cortex. Darker you are adding not subtracting pigments so mainly concerned about damage to the cuticle.

Korkscrew 01-03-2014 07:01 PM

What Firefox said.

Zeldahime 01-03-2014 08:06 PM

Well, I'm one of those too. My hair has been *many* colours throughout time. My natural colour is a level 2 very dark brown, that most people call black even though black dye is darker.

Dying my hair has always loosened my curl. That could also be attributed to the fact that dying my hair any other colour besides black is lightening and I've only ever dyed my hair black once. It was back in high school and I was blowdrying/combing my hair straighter back then anyway so I really can't say.

Straight up bleaching really loosens my curl, quite unevenly too. Despite having totally fried my hair with bleach (or too high developer... or both) in the past, it still could never kill all the curl. My 3a/3b turned into more like 3a/2c, but it still looked funky cuz my hair doesn't lay flat easily.

Now my hair and skin is quite sensitive and very easily damaged, more so than others. Despite this it remains quite stubborn to any kind of treatment as well. XD

I've found that with my hair I must do multiple mild treatments to it to get it to do what I want with *minimal* damage. Bombing my hair with one big shot always did nothing but fry my hair and scalp.

When bleaching I did get my hair to a nice light med blonde, but this was only after a year of slowly bleaching and toning my hair up to that point. I can't use anything higher than a 20 volume developer and I never left the bleach on longer than 30 min cuz anything longer than that... well the only thing that fixes that is a pair of scissors. In the end, this still ended badly as I one time left the bleach in for 45 min. I tried for a month to save my hair with no luck.

Even just trying to dye my hair so my grays don't show was a pain till I tried Wella Colour Charm. Friggin' grays are so resistant to dyes, so many of them just wash out, To top it all of the Wella even works with only a 10 volume developer. Aah! my hair is so thankful!

These are my experiences, and they probably won't resemble yours. =) I'd say overall going lighter will probably cause some loosening with it's effect highly variable depending on method and hair condition. Not sure about darkening.

On that note I do would like to echo Korkscrew: Even relaxing my hair doesn't kill my hair as bad as bleaching it does! Yikes!

gemima 01-04-2014 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Brenna84 (Post 2238988)
Gemima - how would you recommend gradually darkening? your method sounds nice. maybe gradually lightening and then dying it a nice red color hehe

It depends on the shade you're starting with. Being super blonde I need to use a filler colour first to prevent my hair turning strange colours. For example, if I were to go brown I'd probably use a warm toned semi or demi first, to prevent the cooler tones in the brown turning the yellow of my hair into a vomit shade of green.
To go darker I do a series of lowlights a few times over two or three weeks, depending on when my days off work are. I always do one or two protein/moisture treatments a week so that's usually a good opportunity to add a little something extra if I notice my curls are lacking bounce after a few days of the new shade. After I'm happy with the coverage then it's just maintenance every 6 to 8 weeks. :)

Brenna84 01-04-2014 02:26 PM

nice. my hair is black turning dark brown and starting to go grey. I plan on using henna huts red color. then maybe after several months of that, I'ld like to try manic panic but still undecided hehe

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