Let Down by Lush

I spent forever and made a big mess applying Lush Caca Noir to my bra-length 2c/3a hair. I left it in for 5 hours, hoping to find it black and my grays darkened. I rinse out my hair (for at least an hour), and...nothing. Well, now that it's a couple days later, I think it may be a couple shades darker, which really just makes my unicorn hairs stand out even more. Plus, it doesn't even feel as shiny and smooth like when I did Surya once (chose dark brown to match my natural hair - it turned *some* of my greys copper, which is better than nothing).

So...despite all the naysayers, I still believe in the power of henna, for I have seen pictures of others getting amazing results. How long should I wait before trying again? Anything I should or shouldn't do to my hair in the 24-28 hours before applying? (I found plenty of information on the internet about during and after, but nothing really about the state my hair should be prior).

Lush lured me in with their talk of natural ingredients and promise of blue-black hues. However, it was $30 for the block, which is kind of expensive to me, someone who buys at the drugstore-level and only the minimum amount of products. Should I stick with Lush, go back to Surya, something else?
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You may have already resolved the time issue.
But in regards to applying henna, apply it to clean hair. I use a clarifying shampoo before applying henna. You can apply the henna to wet or dry hair. I personally wrap my head in a tshirt and then prep my space for henna application, so my hair is damp and not sopping wet.
Also, I sometimes will use a sulfate shampoo for clarifying just because I feel better about it removing all the build up on my hair, as I oil my hair daily and sometimes use creams or butters as well. Any buildup will inhibit henna from adhering to your strands


Lush lured me in with their talk of natural ingredients and promise of blue-black hues. However, it was $30 for the block, which is kind of expensive to me, someone who buys at the drugstore-level and only the minimum amount of products. Should I stick with Lush, go back to Surya, something else? [/QUOTE]
I found your post because I am researching LUSH's indigo bar. I normally use powders from Mehandi.com, which I do really like, but, I'm looking for something that might be easier and quicker to use for "glosses" in between major applications.
After seeing your post, I went to investigate Surya dyes to see if it was something I'd want to try. From the description at their website, Surya contains **"mild synthetic" ingredients that accomapny the natural ingredients. I'm thinking the synthetic ingredients help make the color adhere in a manner similar to semi-permanent hair products that contain majority or totally synthetic ingredients.


**"On the other hand, Surya Henna Cream comes ready-to-use, no mixing necessary and the color is derived from mild synthetic dyes that are enriched with the organic extract of 15 herbs and plants used to treat and condition hair." Henna FAQS "What is the difference between the henna powder and the henna cream?"https://www.suryabrasilproducts.com/pages/henna-faqs

Lastly, from my experience, Henna and indigo (2 step or one step) deepens with each application, so that my older hair is still black a year after the last time I henna-indigoed. The new hair usually has less intensity of black, which I don't really notice, but I also have a lot of grays which will fade a bit to a brown/reddish brown. But it looks like "highlights" and I do get compliments on my "highlights", so it doesn't bother me. These "highlights" do darken with subsequent henna-indigo applications. (And, going back to where this post started, I'm looking at doing "glosses" or easy-to-put-together applications just for newer hair/roots in between major henna-indigo applications
I hope some of this information helps. This is probably the longest post I've ever written anywhere!
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You may have already resolved the time issue.
But in regards to applying henna, apply it to clean hair. I use a clarifying shampoo before applying henna. You can apply the henna to wet or dry hair. I personally wrap my head in a tshirt and then prep my space for henna application, so my hair is damp and not sopping wet.
Also, I sometimes will use a sulfate shampoo for clarifying just because I feel better about it removing all the build up on my hair, as I oil my hair daily and sometimes use creams or butters as well. Any buildup will inhibit henna from adhering to your strands


Lush lured me in with their talk of natural ingredients and promise of blue-black hues. However, it was $30 for the block, which is kind of expensive to me, someone who buys at the drugstore-level and only the minimum amount of products. Should I stick with Lush, go back to Surya, something else? [/QUOTE]
I found your post because I am researching LUSH's indigo bar. I normally use powders from Mehandi.com, which I do really like, but, I'm looking for something that might be easier and quicker to use for "glosses" in between major applications.
After seeing your post, I went to investigate Surya dyes to see if it was something I'd want to try. From the description at their website, Surya contains **"mild synthetic" ingredients that accomapny the natural ingredients. I'm thinking the synthetic ingredients help make the color adhere in a manner similar to semi-permanent hair products that contain majority or totally synthetic ingredients.


**"On the other hand, Surya Henna Cream comes ready-to-use, no mixing necessary and the color is derived from mild synthetic dyes that are enriched with the organic extract of 15 herbs and plants used to treat and condition hair." Henna FAQS "What is the difference between the henna powder and the henna cream?"https://www.suryabrasilproducts.com/pages/henna-faqs

Lastly, from my experience, Henna and indigo (2 step or one step) deepens with each application, so that my older hair is still black a year after the last time I henna-indigoed. The new hair usually has less intensity of black, which I don't really notice, but I also have a lot of grays which will fade a bit to a brown/reddish brown. But it looks like "highlights" and I do get compliments on my "highlights", so it doesn't bother me. These "highlights" do darken with subsequent henna-indigo applications. (And, going back to where this post started, I'm looking at doing "glosses" or easy-to-put-together applications just for newer hair/roots in between major henna-indigo applications
I hope some of this information helps. This is probably the longest post I've ever written anywhere!

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