how to do curly messy bun or curly ponytail?

Usually in buns or ponytails, I somewhat brush my hair while I put it up, so it's straightish. I could just put it up without brushing, but I'm afraid then it would look TOO messy. How do you get your curls/waves to show in a ponytail or messy bun?
Some 2b in the back, mostly (using FIA) 2c/F/iii.

Fine hair, normal porosity, and normal elasticity.

I'm still new to this CG stuff, so ANY tips you could give me are appreciated.

I have Celiac Disease, which means I can't eat or use products with wheat in it.

Formerly known as curlygirl92 and mixofwavescurls

Last edited by mixofwavescurls; 07-04-2010 at 03:29 PM.

its like you read my mind!
I usually turn my head upside down, and very gently finger comb or kind of finger-move my hair toward the place I want the ponytail/bun. Once I have it gathered, I straighten back up and fix any spots that look weird or bubbly by grabbing that individual curl and pulling it back a little tighter than the others. Sometimes I leave out a curl or 2 on purpose because it's cute Then I fasten, and done!

I would post a how-to video, but my hair is kinda on the short side to be able to do either style right now!
Jessica, proud mama to Hunter (9-18-09)
3a/F/ii, high porosity

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut, V05 Volumizing
Conditioner: AOGPB, Garnier Sleek and Shine
Leave in: Suave Naturals Tropical coconut
Gel: LA Looks Mega hold, Ecostyler Black, SOTC with shea butter/cocoa butter/sweet almond oil
Off-day spritz: Lavender mist
Hair likes Obscene amounts of protein
Hair dislikes
Too much oil

CG since 5/8/10
I have a neat little gadget called a Magicbun (Scunci) that makes a messy bun super easy! I've had it for awhile so I don't know if they still make/sell them. You basically pull back a loose ponytail, wrap it around, fold it into a bun, then hook it.
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Going natural for the summer...just a dab of ArcAngell!
That bun is stuning Ab-star, I like how the dot in the middle makes it look like a flower
Curl type: 3a
Texture: normal
Porosity: normal
CG: Since 15th June 2010, abandoned on the 19th. Modified CG since 20th June.........

Low Poo: Aurstalia Organics
CO: Natures Gate mosituring condish
Style: V05 Wavy Gel
That Magic bun looks fab! I have to be careful with buns and ponytails because my hair is so flat and I have nothing to frame my face. Sometimes they come out alright (ponytails more than buns) and sometimes I just don't care how it looks.

Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

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