How do you gauge your hairs condition?

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Yes, I understand that everyones hair is different. That being said, I was wondering if I could get some input from those of you who are more experienced and know your hair, what factors come into play when determining it's needs.

What tell tale signs indicate...

The need for more moisture.
The need for more protien.
Over conditioning.
Over doing on protien.
Any other conditions you feel is important.

I thought that perhaps if us newbies new some of the common signs to look for we might have a better chance of learning to judge our own hair, more effectivly, and perhaps decrease the learning curve a bit.
Shannon


CG since Oct 2010
3a, fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


Most frequently used cleansing/conditioning products:
  • BioInfusion Cond. Balm
  • Shea Moisture Restorative Cond.
  • V05 Cond.(moisture milks)
Most frequently used styling products:
  • Shea Moisture Curl Enhansing Smoothy
  • Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
  • Shea Moisture Curling Souflee
  • Curl Keeper
  • Design Essentials Naturals Moisturizing Lotion
  • AG:Recoil
  • CJ CCCL
HG: None as of yet
Remember that you can do a forum or thread-specific search on terms to find out what people have already posted on these issues.

Me:

When my ends/problem areas feel crunchy and rough--I need moisture.

When my curls start looking less curly while frizz is increasing: more protein

When my curls look limp and weighed down but not real increase in frizz : over-product, build-up, or overconditioned. Usually poo with a stronger lowpoo or all-out poo and see what happens to gauge if I just needed a clean-up or need more conditioning.

Stretchy: protein

Falling out: check my thyroid/make appt with endo or increase protein and vitamins in diet

Lack of shine: maybe needs protein, maybe build-up
3a3b
Natural since 11/25/09
Then: fine, superdry, non-elastic, porous
Now: medium, dry, elastic, lower porosity, BSL

Curl Junkie Conditions!
Eden BW Cleansing Condish Rocks!

~CJ Protein Tx
; BEE-U-Ti-Ful Deep Condish
~SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
Dumped clumps for VOLUME!

Marchioness Mir, Magister of Moisturization & Mystic of the Lofty Crown in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
I don't know if I've ever been overconditioned. Coarse hair may be different in this respect, or it may just be because I shampoo after henna every few months and this is enough clarification.

Dry, needs moisture: Hair feels dry, sort of crispy. Does not clump up well but makes a million little curls each one hair wide.

Limp, needs protein: hardly ever happens, but when it gets straighter, limp, one application of conditioner with protein seems to help.

Too much protein: Hair feels like greasy straw, really awful and notable feeling, you will not be able to ignore this.

Gray roots and no shine: Needs Henna, LOL.
2c / C / iii (FIA)
Med-Coarse, LowPorosity, NormalElast (LCLF)

Shoulder-Length now.

Wash: DevaCare Low Poo
Detangle & Rinseout: Walgreens or Sally's Conditioning Balm (always)
Leave-in: DevaCare OneC (budget choice is GFTN)
Style: ReCoil & DevaCare Arc Angel (budget choices are HESMU or Got2BSpikedUp)

Henna!
Here are some links I have bookmarked.
Page 5 has how to tell if your hair needs protein or moisture.
The Fine Art of Protein and Moisture Balancing for Black Hair Care - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com
RCC's blog post on protein vs. moisture with pics of hair that needs protein and hair with too much.
Protein vs Moisture Pittsburgh Curly
How to diagnose your hair issues after a sulfate shampoo
The Long Hair Community Discussion Boards - Whats wrong with my hair? Hair Diagnostic Tips

Needs Moisture- feels dry and rough, dull, no elasticity
Needs Protein- flat, lacking bounce
Too much protein- hard, strawlike, my hair gets straighter when it has a little too much protein
Too much moisture- mushy feeling when wet, a strand of hair streeeetches and doesn't return to its original shape (so I've read)
Product build up- fake shine, looks wet when dry, heavy
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers

Last edited by pedaheh; 12-10-2010 at 06:11 PM.
For me:

Needs moisture: Crackly, dry, straw-like feeling. Snapping a lot.
Needs protein: octopus ends, lackadaisical curls in general.
Too much protein: Crackly, dry feeling accompanied by hair that acts coarse/protein sensitive (e.g. gets wet/dries very slowly, goes 'hard' when protein is used, etc).
Too much moisture: Octopus ends, little definition, extremely soft feel to hair.
Product build-up: Funny feel in hair, particularly after co-washing. Frizz. Dryness despite extra moisture. Occasionally a greasy look.

There was a thread not too long ago about how to 'diagnose' or 'read' your hair (don't remember which word was used) - might be worth hunting that down as well.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
I think this is the thread oddity of wings was referring to.
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...your-hair.html
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
That's the one! Thanks, Pedadeh - I'd hunted for it for a while but couldn't find it.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Thank you all for the input. For the record I search these boards constantly, and wasn't finding what I was looking for. In addition it's difficult to piece together information from tons and tons of threads/posts.
This gives me consice information all in one place. Thank you again.
Shannon


CG since Oct 2010
3a, fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


Most frequently used cleansing/conditioning products:
  • BioInfusion Cond. Balm
  • Shea Moisture Restorative Cond.
  • V05 Cond.(moisture milks)
Most frequently used styling products:
  • Shea Moisture Curl Enhansing Smoothy
  • Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
  • Shea Moisture Curling Souflee
  • Curl Keeper
  • Design Essentials Naturals Moisturizing Lotion
  • AG:Recoil
  • CJ CCCL
HG: None as of yet
I should have said in my above post that it's worth keeping in mind that the 'too much moisture' and 'need protein' states are quite similar, as are the' too much protein' and 'need moisture' states. This is because protein and moisture need to be balanced, and 'too much protein' can be seen as a more extreme version of needing moisture. Likewise, 'too much moisture' (aka overconditioning) can be seen as a more extreme version of just needing protein.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
this might seem like a really dumb question, but i really have no idea...when you all are "reading" your hair, is this done after youve "washed" it and it's still wet? or after it has dried with no product? i cant even remember the last time i let my hair dry with nothing in it lol and that was before going cg. thanks for any input
~*~The Curly Derby Girl~*~
CG since 9/10
My Mop: 3b, ii, fine/medium texture, kinda lost on porosity (thinking normal)
LowPoo: GTTT, Shea Moisture African Black Soap, Ology Volumizing Shampoo, or BioInfusion Daily Rosemary Mint
Rinse Out: GFTN, Ology Volumizing Condish, KKKT, or Yes to Carrots L/I: KCKT
Cremes: AGRecoil or B'Leave In
Gels: LALSG (9 or 10) or KCCC
I do both. I find protein issues are easier to judge while wet, and moisture issues easier to judge when dry. The only exception is noticing what I call 'octopus ends' which you can only judge when dry. I find product build-up can be noticed both wet and dry.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
I just wanted to add that it is possible for your hair to need a lot of protein and a lot of moisture. My hair always needs tons of moisture. My hair sometimes needs lots protein, but always needs a good amount.

I also assess both wet and dry. Not using product would make it easier to access, but I haven't had to do that yet. Honestly, my hair is easy to read.
Not enough moisture-Dry, rough ends when dry. This happens to me every time before I wash this winter.
Too much moisture-never happened to me.
Not enough protein-no bounce when dry, droopy curls/waves
Slightly too much protein-hard when wet or straighter when dry. Straighter when dry is not true of everyone's hair, but it is true of mine.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
At risk of being repetative, let me just say again how much I appreciate all the information. I just bookmarked the links provided and of course have access to this thread....it is all very helpful.
Thank You again
Shannon


CG since Oct 2010
3a, fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


Most frequently used cleansing/conditioning products:
  • BioInfusion Cond. Balm
  • Shea Moisture Restorative Cond.
  • V05 Cond.(moisture milks)
Most frequently used styling products:
  • Shea Moisture Curl Enhansing Smoothy
  • Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
  • Shea Moisture Curling Souflee
  • Curl Keeper
  • Design Essentials Naturals Moisturizing Lotion
  • AG:Recoil
  • CJ CCCL
HG: None as of yet

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