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csb 01-31-2007 02:29 PM

Less moisture in winter?!!!!
I posted a similar thing when talking about my super-fine hair, but thought I would try to get some more specific responses.

I recently tried a shampoo/conditioner for fine hair that has very little moisture in it, and my hair has looked great for 3 days---no greasiness, breakouts, zip. And it's been very dry and cold here. (Admittedly, I'm straightening in the cold, because I'm not getting much curl.)

Shouldn't I need more moisture for this cold, dry weather? I'm wondering if I have just been WAY overconditioning in the summer when it's humid. I have been having problems year-round with greasiness and breakouts along my hairline (hair product-related---I still need more moisturizer for my skin in the winter). Is anyone else having this experience? Should I try to go lighter with my products year-round?

lushaholic 01-31-2007 03:04 PM

It's possible you were just over-conditioned and your hair needed the break from the heavier conditioners. Which one are you using now btw?

csb 01-31-2007 03:34 PM

I tried a sample of Goldwell Light Moisture shampoo and conditioner for fine hair. I think these products are new. The conditioner probably won't be a long-term thing for me because it has isopropyl alcohol as one of the last ingredients in it, but I have been amazed at how well it worked, though. I think I must need to lighten up all the way around.

Kaia 01-31-2007 03:47 PM

Some people do need more moisture in the summer, especially if you live in a very humid area. The idea is that if your hair is not fully hydrated, it will absorb moisture from the humid air, which causes frizz. In the winter when it drier, that problem is eliminated, so you may not need quite as much moisture. Also, some curls tend to go limp in the cold, dry weather, so a heavy conditioner might weigh them down even more. Isn't it great how every head of curls is completely different? :roll:

csb 01-31-2007 04:00 PM

I guess that is possible about the humidity thing, but I'm guessing that I may be overdoing it all the time. I'm going to try lighter products to see how well they work, then gradually work my way up. This could get expensive....

hockeymomof3 01-31-2007 04:01 PM

Curious about the Goldwell products -- I notice they have a CURL light and intense line similar to the moisture line...

You'll have to keep us posted on how you like the Goldwell!

HippieChic 01-31-2007 05:27 PM

This is my first winter wearing my hair curly. I'm finding that I need more moisture in the summer. In the summer I would use a heavier condish, and leave some in from the shower. I used CK every day. When winter rolled around I found that this routine was not working. Everything was weighing me down and giving me limp curls. I've figured out that I need a moisturizing condish in the shower, but I need to rinse it all out. I can't use CK or even a leave in without my hair going limp. My routine is down to condish, Gelebration and then a gel. Maybe it does have something to do with the humidity levels

csb 02-01-2007 12:20 PM

I washed again today with the Moisture Light shampoo and conditioner, and I'm really happy with it. I have to admit I'm amazed. The ingredients are really pretty good, too. Although the shampoo is a sulfate 'poo, it has sodium laureth sulfate, which is gentle. The other ingredients are good, too: panthenol, avocado extract and avocado oil, and yogurt powder, which I guess is some kind of protein. The conditioner is very similar (no sulfates, obviously), although it does have isopropyl alcohol near the end. Even with that, though, my hair doesn't feel dry. It's shiny, soft, has volume, and took less time to get dry. I think I'm going to pick up the full size bottles. While I'm at the salon I'll check out that Curl Light formula, too.

hockeymomof3 02-01-2007 12:22 PM

I'll have to put those on my wish list!! They sound good!

csb 02-02-2007 08:42 AM

Ok, so I picked up the Moisture Light shampoo and conditioner this morning, and looked at Curl Light products. Unfortunately, there were no samples of the Curl Light products, but they look GREAT! No "bad" ingredients (unless you count sodium laureth sulfate in the shampoo, which I don't). Lots of sweet almond oil in both the 'poo and conditioner.

The curl light defining spray does have a lot of alcohol in it (like a hairspray), but also has some of that sweet almond oil in it. I went ahead and got the spray (in hopes that I could get good results with the Moisture Light stuff and the spray). I have had good luck with sprays like this in the past, so keep your fingers crossed.

I probably won't give the spray a try for the next few days, though, since we're looking at cold dry weather, which really sucks for me with curl formation. I want to give the spray a fair shake and a chance to work with our usual humidity.

Brio 02-04-2007 03:48 PM

I was going back and looking at some of the "ask the expert" articles on this site.

This was from LM's Jan. 2005 interview:


Q:. The CG routine has worked fabulously for the summer months but thiswinter my hair is flat and dull. Do I need to use more conditioner or lessthis season. -- Elleces

Lorraine Massey: Less. Why? Because there's less humidity. For a humidity boost, mix Angell and Mist-er Right.
That seems opposite of what I would have thought. I guess I figured conditioner was like lotion. I need more lotion for my skin in the winter, so I figured I needed more co for my hair in the winter.

Maybe I'll give using less (or none) a try. My winter curls have gone flop.

redcelticcurls 02-04-2007 06:34 PM

I suppose that it can vary from curly to curly. I know that I need much more moisture in the winter or I lose some curl. The more moisturized my hair is, the curlier I get.

That being said, I imagine that there must be curlies that are the opposite.

I see some use oils to elongate curls, while oils make me curlier unless I really pile it on to the point where you can see the oil coating.. I guess it just depends on the individual.

csb 02-05-2007 07:59 AM

It is really fascinating, though the humidity thing is starting to make sense. We have had near zero humidity lately, which is kind of a challenge for me, even when straight, since my fine hair likes to be really flyaway. Obviously I need some moisture, but how much is just right?

Brio 02-10-2007 04:45 PM

I tried my experiment with no conditioner and I am totally surprised at how I don't need conditioner. I shampooed last night with Suave Citrus Smoothie shampoo (real shampoo) and didn't put in any conditioner at all. While I can't say my hair turned out great, it's not any worse, and I seem to have more volume. I'm surprised: It doesn't feel dry, either.

I think my city puts a lot of water softener in the water, though. And even in the summer, I've never been able to leave a lot of co in my hair. I've always had to rinse thoroughly.

I'll continue to experiment and record it in my Fotki.

bibbles 02-10-2007 04:58 PM

I think I've been over moistureising my hair too, it's so limp and way too soft. What do you put on to get your hair to curl if your going without condish.

Brio 02-10-2007 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by bibbles
I think I've been over moistureising my hair too, it's so limp and way too soft. What do you put on to get your hair to curl if your going without condish.

Well, I've only tried it one day so far, but I just used gel. Today I used Kiss My Face Upper Management Gel.

bibbles 02-11-2007 10:08 AM

Washed my hair with cheap boots poo (no cones) this morning and left to air dry. My hair is still poofy but it has more body and a few defined s waves and one spiral at the front also a bit of frizz but the texture is definitely better, I just hope it continues to improve.

csb 02-12-2007 07:53 AM

I think I just need a break from the grind every so often. I went back to the Deva Low Poo/One C/Re:coil and Angell this week, and my hair looks great. I guess it's like the clarifying thing: just do it.

I was disappointed with the Goldwell spray, by the way. Too much like a true hairspray. Left my hair brittle.

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