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Lauraimes 04-27-2013 01:03 AM

Questions about KCCC and Brylcreem
I posted last week that my hair isn't too happy with my current routine, and thanks to katyhmack, I suspect it's because of the polyquats. However, I don't have a styling product that doesn't have them, so I'm thinking about ordering KCCC. I've done my research and it seems that most people are really fond of this gel, especially after figuring out how to use it. I would love to hear some experiences. My properties are fine/low porosity/high density.

Now I still use my styling products with polyquats in them because my hair looks lifeless without product. Then I found Brylcreem this morning (or actually, it has been there all the time but I suddenly noticed it. I checked the ingredient list and it doesn't have any cones (I think) or polyquats, but I'm not sure if it would really work with my hair properties. I'm hoping that I can use it for the time being so I don't get build-up all the time.

The ingredients are:

Aqua, Paraffinum Liquidum, Cera Alba, Hydrogenated Rapeseed Oil, Petrolatum, Glyceryl Stearate, Limonene, Linalool, Citral, Geraniol, Benzyl Alcohol, Lanolin Alcohol, Calcium Hydroxide, Behenic Acid, Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Hydrolised Wheat Protein, Hydrolised Wheat Starch

My hair will definitely like the last two ingredients. I'm not sure about the paraffinum liquidum and the petrolatum. I know it has some alcohols, yet I have no clue whether my hair had any problems with them in the past. Also, I know my hair hates oils, but I'm wondering whether they would work in this case because they are hydrogenated.

Could anyone help me figure out the ingredients and whether I could temporarily use Brylcreem until I get a new styling product?

Jessiebanana 04-27-2013 01:18 AM

Mmmm...I'm low porosity and there are very few things worse than mineral oil as the second ingredient. Our hair type generally isn't an oil fan and mineral oil is the worst of the worst.

I'd try the KCCC if I were you. I never have, because I'm allergic to aloe. Agave gets very crunchy in my hair, so I'm not a particular fan of that, but it seems like a good product. I think you can waste so much money, and time, searching for the alternatives.

Lauraimes 04-27-2013 01:20 AM

Hmm, that would probably translate itself into very weighed down and even unhappier hair than when using the products with polyquats. Thanks for sharing, Jessiebanana.

kathymack 04-27-2013 05:40 AM

I was going to comment on the mineral oil, too. It's twice in the first five ingredients: Aqua, Paraffinum Liquidum, Cera Alba, Hydrogenated Rapeseed Oil, Petrolatum I think this will cause you more problems than the polyquats.

Lauraimes 04-27-2013 05:49 AM

I seem to have a talent for picking products that will bother me more than the polyquats, haha. Thanks again, kathymack! Really appreciate it.

I'm just wondering... You seem to know a lot about curls and how to take care of them. How did you acquire all that knowledge? I've noticed you recommend Live Curly, Live Free regularly and I agree that it's a marvellous source, but are there any others? I'm happy to learn more as I'm writing Dutch articles about it for my blog. We know and care way to little about haircare in the Netherlands/Europe, so I hope I can contribute to extending that knowledge.

Lauraimes 04-27-2013 05:51 AM

Jessiebanana, I know exactly what you mean. I've already spent a lot of money on hair products and I wouldn't necessarily say that it's a total waste of money because learning that products don't work is also useful in getting to know your properties (though I'd rather have discovered them in another way, I admit that ;) ). I'm hoping to find products that work well for me soon, because this is frustrating.

fihe 04-27-2013 07:09 AM

I see that the Brylcreem contains calcium hydroxide. That's the main ingredient used in relaxers. Hopefully it wouldn't cause any trouble for you!

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kathymack 04-27-2013 08:09 AM

When I'm interested in something, I'm obsessive. When I first started on, I read EVERY post in EVERY hair thread! I learned a lot. The e-book on the livecurlylivefree website is also really good. The best advice I can give you is to read, read and read some more.

Jessiebanana 04-27-2013 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by fihe (Post 2159337)
I see that the Brylcreem contains calcium hydroxide. That's the main ingredient used in relaxers. Hopefully it wouldn't cause any trouble for you!

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FYI: Ingredients like calcium and sodium hydroxide in non relaxing hair products are generally used as pH balancers in minute quantities.

Lauraimes 04-27-2013 11:44 AM

@kathymack: I recognise that. I'm pretty obsessed with my curls and the whole science behind taking care of your curls. I'm on the right track, reading as much as I can. I noticed that responding to other people's questions and problems definitely helps as well.

Lauraimes 04-28-2013 09:28 AM

I'm really, really eager and curious to try KCCC. Any fine/low porosity curlies here who feel like sharing their experiences?

LoloDSM 04-28-2013 09:33 AM

I never understood the whole porosity thing, but I have thin, fine hair that loves protein and KCCC. Depending on the day, my hair is 2B/3A curls and waves. I've used KCCC for five years and always have an extra tub on hand so I never run out.

I can't use anything with polyquats because they make my hair look greasy and stringy.

Lauraimes 04-28-2013 09:46 AM

@LoloDSM: I discovered that I have low porosity hair because it takes forever to dry and it has difficulty absorbing anything, which is especially visible when I spritz my hair with water (instead of penetrating the hair shaft, I see beads of water on my hair). This is because the cuticle of my hair shaft is very compact - too compact. This link had been very helpful: Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics

lcl0706 04-28-2013 10:25 AM

I don't like KCCC because of the crunch factor & the smell. it's overpowering to me, and I'm not a smell sensitive person. a lot of people here love it & I've gotten it to work by mixing it with KCKT but it's not my go to product. I have fine hair and prefer products with protein in them. KCCC also has a way of making my hair feel dry, I think it's the aloe & agave in it. I don't have another product that I like that has aloe in it.

ETA - I've seen several people say it increases drying time. idk if I really noticed a difference but with low po hair that might be something to consider.

Lauraimes 04-28-2013 10:33 AM

Thanks for your reply! How about hold and definition? What does KCCC do for you in that respect?

lcl0706 04-28-2013 01:21 PM

I don't want or need a lot of hold, so I don't really look for that. it actually has too much hold for my taste. I prefer to let my curls fall where they want rather than try to freeze them in a certain place. definition is fine but I can get that from products I like better than KCCC.

but my hair goals might be different than yours! it's really what works for you. I don't want a ton of hold & I can't stand the smell but you might love it. the problem with product reviews, especially with love/hate products like KCCC, is you don't really know until you try it.

Lauraimes 04-29-2013 05:02 AM

My hair would definitely benefit from some hold. I don't mind SOTC.

I keep searching for reviews and experiences and it's just what you say, difficult to determine whether it might work for me or not. There's such a variety in likes and dislikes.

lcl0706 04-29-2013 10:26 AM

I have half a tub left if you want it. I can't stand the smell. PM me & we'll work out details. I am fine getting rid of it since I very rarely use it.

Lauraimes 04-29-2013 01:50 PM

I sent you a PM!

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