I think I've gone off oil....

pelicano when you're done exploding take a look at this and see if it helps you


Also, when doing a Protein TX you can try an ACV rinse immediately afterwards to seal in the moisture. If your hair is porous you'll love ACV rinses too, just not too often. Once or twice a month.

If you can post all of the ingredients to the products you're using that would help us too. You should be able to find them on-line and copy/paste. We're just going by what you're telling us, but without seeing what's in your products, it's going to be really hard to get the bottom of it.

ETA: keep in mind too that Oils alone are not moisturizing if not combined with other moisturizing ingredients. Can you get some Shea Butter where you are??
Originally Posted by DEL2C
I agree with the bolded advice from Del.

I have to run to work now but will post more from there in a couple of hours.
3a and strictly CG since August 2007. Porous and on the fine side. No to magnesium sulfate and glycerin. Yes to protein! Favorites:
CO-WASHES: Suave Coconut
CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG

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Curry curls - no worries about hijacking my thread - to be honest, I'm glad it isn't just me, if that doesn't sound bad!!

I'm convinced it is the protein, since the only thing that the two treatments have in common is the high protein. My hair is still crazy soft today, so it definitely feels healthier, even if it doesn't look great (typical eh?)

Funnily enough, I've just ordered some shea butter to try. Do I just use it as a leave in, or as a pre shampoo treatment too?

Thanks for the link - will have a read now...

Based in the UK. 2-something (2b?) hair. Very porous, fine and brittle/fragile

Hair loves: Drip drying, glycerine, shea butter, oils
Hair hates: Plopping, any kind of gel, most conditioners (scalp issues).
Well, my hair calmed down today after co-washing. Oddly enough, I used two protein heavy (I think) conditioners...giovanni to wash with and oatmeal and honey to condition with. The conditioning balm and gel went in as usual to style. I think the protein treatment just injected life into my hair or something and without the styling products, it was free to be full of life and fluff. So, I think protein doesn't really make my hair curlier, just perks it up. My 16 year old said my hair was springy after I did the treatment.

pelicano, do you use any styling products? I think they helped my hair to calm down after the initial protein treatment.

I even got a compliment from the mail lady today. She said she my curls were so pretty and were they my mother's day present. I'm thinking she thought I had just gotten a perm. Well, I guess the treatment did something nice for my curls.
Started CG July 8, 2008


Co-wash: Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle or Trader Joe's Nourish Spa
Rinse out: Ion Effective Care Treatment
Leave-in/Styling: Alba Botanica leave in with Kenra Moisturizing Conditioner on top
That's good news.

I think you're right - it does seem to spring the hair to life! In my case, it softens it, so the curls drop out, but then I'm only a 3a anyway, so that's not particularly difficult to do.

I'm still a fluffy today, even after several days. I think I will pursue the protein though, as I think my hair needs it for condition. I don't use styling products, as my hair can't really take it, plus my scalp gets too bad with them.

My shea butter still hasn't turned up, but I'm hoping I'll be able to use that to calm down the fluff when it arrives.

This understanding your own hair is a tricky business, isn't it? You'd think 36 years later I'd have got it sorted but obviously not!!!

Oh, in answer to the question earlier about the shampoos etc, my scalp is actually noticeably better once it's been shampooed, so it isn't reacting to shampoo. I try to restrict it to once a week, with water washes in between, but if only my hair was in good condition, I'd shampoo my hair every day.

Based in the UK. 2-something (2b?) hair. Very porous, fine and brittle/fragile

Hair loves: Drip drying, glycerine, shea butter, oils
Hair hates: Plopping, any kind of gel, most conditioners (scalp issues).

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