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BeachloverinNM,
Thanks for your product suggestions. I will look into Eden bodyworks. Are you using the new version of BRHG? I read they changed the formula and general feedback is a no-no. Do you mean you tried the LA sport gel? Or the Giovanni gel I'm currently using? I think it's not ideal, but I'm trying not to go crazy with a whole lot of new products all at once. Which beautiful curls product did u use? I'm thinking of trying their shampoo, and go back to the curl cream which I have, for my next wash.
Yes, I am using the new BRHG. I was also alarmed by all the negative reviews but it's working well for me. I had also used the old formula. Not really seeing any difference.

Oops, I meant the Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel (not sport gel). I believe that's what you are currently using. I really wanted to like this product but after going back and forth between it and BRHG for a while, I can definitely say that the Giovanni caused frizz while BRHG does not.

I use the Beautiful Curls Enhancing Leave-In Conditioner for wavy to curly hair. I have to use a TON of it. After shampooing with the cowash, conditioning and rinsing out the Nutrafix, I apply the Beautiful Curls and comb with my vent brush with my head upside down. Then I take ANOTHER palmful of it and "squish to condish" it into my hair (head upside down). I don't add extra water, just keep adding conditioner. The curls are pretty clumped at this point. Then I put a dab of BRGH in my palm, add a little water and rub my palms together to kind of thin out the gel, then smooth it over the top and bottom of my hair (again with head upside down). Scrunch it in from the bottom up. Then (with head still hanging down) get out of the shower and use a long-sleeved T-shirt to "plop" my hair in while I dry off and get dressed. IMPORTANT: I do not leave the T-shirt on too long or squeeze any additional water out with it. This leads to frizz for me. After flipping my head back up, if my hair starts to drip I scrunch with my bare hands to try to reincorporate the water. I let it air dry for a while and then usually diffuse dry (ala Pixiecurl). Once dry I put a little olive oil in my palms and SOTC. If it is frizzy at that point I may smooth a little Giovanni Direct Leave-In over the top as described in my previous post.

One other thing I forgot to mention. If I remember to do it, putting olive oil in my hair before I shampoo and letting it soak in for 30-60 minutes helps a lot with controlling frizz and making my hair curlier and softer. I tried coconut oil but it didn't work. Olive oil is awesome for me. Before bed I also put some olive oil in (praying hands technique) before covering my hair with a satin cap. I don't know if this will work for you since you have fine hair, but my coarse extra-porous, extra-dry hair can take almost as much olive oil as I can put into it. It seems like my hair works best when I do the pre-poo with oil.

I haven't tried the Beautiful Curls curl cream. Do you recommend it? Do you use it in place of a gel?

I hear you on not wanting to try a bunch of new products. I have spent a ton of time and money trying stuff. In my experience the expensive, sold online only products didn't work any better than these moderately priced things that I can buy locally. I have been determined to try to use what I buy in some fashion, which led to a lot of experimentation and eventually to what I do now. I will probably still try products once in a while, but for now I am happy to have something that mostly works.

Oh, and while I am on the subject of experimentation, in an effort to use up what I already had I tried mixing things together ("cocktailing"), e.g. combining gel with leave-in, combining olive oil with leave-in, etc. You can tell if things are going to combine well if you mix them in your hand and they emulsify; if they turn into little balls don't apply. Maybe you could mix your curl cream with the Giovanni gel and see if it works together?

BTW, as others have said, I think frizz is just something some of us have to live with. My hair will never be smooth and frizz free, but at least these techniques make it livable for me. I have a lot of "high texture grays" (as my stylist says) coming in and no matter what I do these strands do not cooperate! My hair is highlighted which also compounds the porous problem.

Again, HTH!
Yes, I am using the new BRHG. I was also alarmed by all the negative reviews but it's working well for me. I had also used the old formula. Not really seeing any difference.

Oops, I meant the Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel (not sport gel). I believe that's what you are currently using. I really wanted to like this product but after going back and forth between it and BRHG for a while, I can definitely say that the Giovanni caused frizz while BRHG does not.

I use the Beautiful Curls Enhancing Leave-In Conditioner for wavy to curly hair. I have to use a TON of it. After shampooing with the cowash, conditioning and rinsing out the Nutrafix, I apply the Beautiful Curls and comb with my vent brush with my head upside down. Then I take ANOTHER palmful of it and "squish to condish" it into my hair (head upside down). I don't add extra water, just keep adding conditioner. The curls are pretty clumped at this point. Then I put a dab of BRGH in my palm, add a little water and rub my palms together to kind of thin out the gel, then smooth it over the top and bottom of my hair (again with head upside down). Scrunch it in from the bottom up. Then (with head still hanging down) get out of the shower and use a long-sleeved T-shirt to "plop" my hair in while I dry off and get dressed. IMPORTANT: I do not leave the T-shirt on too long or squeeze any additional water out with it. This leads to frizz for me. After flipping my head back up, if my hair starts to drip I scrunch with my bare hands to try to reincorporate the water. I let it air dry for a while and then usually diffuse dry (ala Pixiecurl). Once dry I put a little olive oil in my palms and SOTC. If it is frizzy at that point I may smooth a little Giovanni Direct Leave-In over the top as described in my previous post.

One other thing I forgot to mention. If I remember to do it, putting olive oil in my hair before I shampoo and letting it soak in for 30-60 minutes helps a lot with controlling frizz and making my hair curlier and softer. I tried coconut oil but it didn't work. Olive oil is awesome for me. Before bed I also put some olive oil in (praying hands technique) before covering my hair with a satin cap. I don't know if this will work for you since you have fine hair, but my coarse extra-porous, extra-dry hair can take almost as much olive oil as I can put into it. It seems like my hair works best when I do the pre-poo with oil.

I haven't tried the Beautiful Curls curl cream. Do you recommend it? Do you use it in place of a gel?

I hear you on not wanting to try a bunch of new products. I have spent a ton of time and money trying stuff. In my experience the expensive, sold online only products didn't work any better than these moderately priced things that I can buy locally. I have been determined to try to use what I buy in some fashion, which led to a lot of experimentation and eventually to what I do now. I will probably still try products once in a while, but for now I am happy to have something that mostly works.

Oh, and while I am on the subject of experimentation, in an effort to use up what I already had I tried mixing things together ("cocktailing"), e.g. combining gel with leave-in, combining olive oil with leave-in, etc. You can tell if things are going to combine well if you mix them in your hand and they emulsify; if they turn into little balls don't apply. Maybe you could mix your curl cream with the Giovanni gel and see if it works together?

BTW, as others have said, I think frizz is just something some of us have to live with. My hair will never be smooth and frizz free, but at least these techniques make it livable for me. I have a lot of "high texture grays" (as my stylist says) coming in and no matter what I do these strands do not cooperate! My hair is highlighted which also compounds the porous problem.

Again, HTH!
Originally Posted by BeachLoverInNM
BeachloverinNM,
Thanks for your application tips. I'll be trying them out soon!

I actually stopped the Giovanni for a few days and went back to Beautiful Curls defining gel. It does seem a bit less frizz-inducing. The texture is very watery though. So I use a fair bit every wash, and it's slightly tricky to apply. I've lost gobs of it here and there. From the sound of your beautiful curls leave in application, I think they should be a similar consistency. It doesn't smell of anything much to me, but I'd run through the tube much faster than a conventional gel. However, a product that works is worth its weight in gold! Haha. I'm not sure I'd recommend it though, as I'm still new to all this and I want to sort out my non-clumping issue first before I can definitively tell anyone to go and buy it.

As you suggested, I shall layer the two gels in order to finish them up and hope that the LALSG that is enroute performs a miracle for me.

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