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Hi, I'm new to the forums and going natural. I find the naturallycurly site very informative and so I 've decided to join. I'm just starting out on my natural hair journey, am transitioning, and my short natural hair is 4b atm. Currently reading a lot and watching youtube vids to learn and hopefully get a solid regimen together, and results. Oh yeah I'm a guy, hope that's ok
I am so new to this! I did a BC last month (March 2017). I did use perms in the past to straighten my hair. As long as I can remember my hair has been so thick, took FOREVER to dry, my mother pressing my hair when I was little was at least a 2 hour event. When I got older, I decided to put a relaxer in my hair so my mother wouldn't have to do it every week. As time when on, I stopped going to the salon getting it done because the stylists would be like they needed to put off clients just to get my hair washed, dried, and styled. Fast forward to this year and a few things happened. I came to the realization that I have female pattern balding...ugh! On top of that, hair breakage from relaxers. I knew it was time to face up to it and own it because my fiance said something.
Soooooo, I had to BC what was left and now I have a TWA. Still learning to deal with it. I have SHRINKAGE to the max seems like. I have high density hair and I am looking for products to get me on the road to natural. I have done some research and I can say it's interesting. I found out why my hair floats on top of water....I found out about female pattern baldness. What I need to find out is some products that will not only help with the shrinkage but also help define my coily curls. I think that I have 4c hair.
I currently use Sheamoisture products: Low porosity line. I do LCO for now. LOC didn't have my hair feeling right. My cream now is Coconut/Hibiscus curl defining cream. My oil is coconut, jojoba oil, avocado mix. Maybe the summertime will change that.
What products can be recommended for my hair type and dealing with shrinkage from damp to dry? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
oops posted twice accidentally

Last edited by veganwavy; 05-25-2017 at 03:00 AM. Reason: posted twice
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forum and as my nickname suggests, I'm making it super hard for myself because I want to use only vegan (and silicone-free) products I am from Germany but will move to the US (Georgia) this year with my family (my husband is in the US army), so I'm not yet very firm with American products, please be patient with me
I think my hair is a mixture of 2B and 2C but it used to be really corkscrew-curly (3A?) before I had my first child now, after my second baby, it seems more wavy-curly again, yay! Who knows, maybe I'll get my curls back some day...
I started using Deva Curl Low poo, One Condition Delight, the Frizz-free foam and Wave maker last week and so far, I really like the results I'm getting. It is kinda expensive in the long run, though, so I'm hoping to find more affordable products.
Oh yes, I used to color my hair, even bleach it until I got pregnant again last year. Now I'm growing out my natural grey hair (even though I'm only 32, I have TONS of grey hairs) and want to nurse the lengths back to some health.

Last edited by veganwavy; 05-25-2017 at 03:10 AM. Reason: forgot to mention my 'hair history'
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forum and as my nickname suggests, I'm making it super hard for myself because I want to use only vegan (and silicone-free) products I am from Germany but will move to the US (Georgia) this year with my family (my husband is in the US army), so I'm not yet very firm with American products, please be patient with me
I think my hair is a mixture of 2B and 2C but it used to be really corkscrew-curly (3A?) before I had my first child now, after my second baby, it seems more wavy-curly again, yay! Who knows, maybe I'll get my curls back some day...
I started using Deva Curl Low poo, One Condition Delight, the Frizz-free foam and Wave maker last week and so far, I really like the results I'm getting. It is kinda expensive in the long run, though, so I'm hoping to find more affordable products.
Oh yes, I used to color my hair, even bleach it until I got pregnant again last year. Now I'm growing out my natural grey hair (even though I'm only 32, I have TONS of grey hairs) and want to nurse the lengths back to some health.
Originally Posted by veganwavy
Hi veganwavy,

Welcome to nc.com. I'm fairly new to the curltalk boards but about 12 years ago, I researched here and lurked around and learned a lot about how to care for curly hair. I'm back because I'm looking for some new techniques for new looks.

Since you are vegan, I wanted to make a shameless plug for the Alaffia shampoo and conditioners in my sig. Alaffia is such a great company with such a great mission, I feel like it's atleast worth trying their products. It is available at stores like Whole Foods and Whole Foods specifically has a no questions asked return policy, so its an easy way to try it. For more information about these, I've given a review in the Product Reviews section of Curltalk. (Note: I don't not get any benefits for this plug. Honest! I just love them.)

Since you are vegan and graying I wanted to mention that I started coloring my hair with henna to cover the gray, and it has improved the condition of my hair better than any treatment I have ever used. If this is something you want to look into, be sure to get Body Art Quality (BAQ) henna and also consider adding amla to the mix to retain your curl. For more info, check out, hennaforhair.com, hennasooq.com, and other resources on the internet. (Note: Henna colors hair red. You can mix it with indigo powder for various shades of brown or black. If you have blond hair and don't want red, you can use cassia powder instead.)
Summer: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing - Citrus Mint Shampoo and Conditioner
Winter: Alaffia Coconut & Shea Daily Hydrating - Lavender Coconut Shampoo and Conditioner

Fine, 2c, low porosity hair that I color using the 2-step henndigo with amla

Looking for styling products and tools

iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order
Hi all, new to the forums but I've been browsing them for the last week.

I'm on Day 3 of my hair journey and it's going really well so far!! I spent my life hating my hair and telling everyone I was somewhere terrible in between wavy and straight which just meant frizzy and uncontrollable. After finding the Curly Girl method and this website I realized that I actually have wavy hair! And on Day 3 I am so happy that I'm discovering what it looks like naturally. I wish I had a curly haired role model to teach me all of this earlier but the curly hair comes from my dad and my mom had no idea what to do with it. So happy to be here!
Like ChicagoWavie, I'm new, but unlike her, I've been lurking for years. I joined because maybe I have a few things to say including venting about my lousy cut last week.

I learned about the CG method from one of my curly-haired daughters. I'd had so many bad cut over the years that I ended up wearing my hair long and in a bun or braided. I was great at buns! When I finally cut my hair about 6 years ago, I realized that my youngest daughter had never seen me with short hair. She was finishing up her sophomore year in college at the time. The first stylist to give me a good cut was a genius in cutting hair. He did not cut it dry, but it looked great anyway. Unfortunately, he's no longer around. I found a Deva inspired stylist and had been going to her for several years, but this January, she gave me a cut that wasn't great. In retrospect, it wasn't that bad and should never have had me hinting for a new stylist. I went to another stylist (Deva level 3, this time) and got a terrible cut. She may know how to cut most curly hair and she may have some satisfied clients, but I am not one of them. I'm going back to Hailey.

I currently use Deva Decadence co-wash, Renpure Coconut Cream condish, Curls Blueberry Bliss leave-in and a mixture of Deva Supercream and Miss Jessie's Pillow Soft for styling. If I have to use one styler, I like Miss Jessie better. It's less expensive, too.

Anyway, I'm finally glad to part of CurlTalk!
Hi All,

My hair has been pin straight for most of my life. After I had my son in 1995, my thyroid pooped out (unbeknownst to me at the time) and my hair started curling... I used to get perms and my last one just never grew out I never really did much with it, always blew it out and went on my way. About 1.5 years ago I decided to embrace my curly side and go "natural" and I am struggling!! My hair is 2b/2c, very fine, thinner, low porosity. I THINK my hair hates protein but I'm not sure.
Anyway, after lurking for a year I decided to say hello and start my journey to better curls.

Cory
Hi All,

My hair has been pin straight for most of my life. After I had my son in 1995, my thyroid pooped out (unbeknownst to me at the time) and my hair started curling... I used to get perms and my last one just never grew out I never really did much with it, always blew it out and went on my way. About 1.5 years ago I decided to embrace my curly side and go "natural" and I am struggling!! My hair is 2b/2c, very fine, thinner, low porosity. I THINK my hair hates protein but I'm not sure.
Anyway, after lurking for a year I decided to say hello and start my journey to better curls.

Cory
Originally Posted by CoryD
Hi Cory welcome! It's a challenge at first but you will get a hold of it
2c, dense and coarse hair.
I've been CG since 2013, I used to be on here back then but I haven't been on in ages & lost my old account...recently I found myself thinking a lot about curltalk so I decided to make a new account, guess I'm a newbie again then :P
Icelandic, CG since Oct. 2013.
2C/3A, short hair (crew cut/undercut), low porosity, high density, medium/coarse.
I've been "natural" most of my life (20 years), but I am just now starting to become more acquainted and knowledgeable of my hair. I grew up using flat irons, ironing combs, or braids to manage my hair. It was seen as more of an uncontrollable, but beautiful nuisance, rather than a beautiful mane.

I'm also a habitual swimmer, who used to swim competitively, and so, my hair has suffered some damage from that. If anyone has any tips for a newly natural college student, please share!
20, Lifelong Natural, Plant-Based, Medium/Long Hair
3B/3C, Low Porosity, Thick and Dense strands
Oils:
Jojoba, Argan, Coconut
Shampoo:
  • Shea Moisture(SM) Baobab/Tea Tree Oils Low Porosity Protein-Free
  • Maui Moisture(MM) Nourish & Moisture + Coconut Milk
Conditioner:
  • SM Baobab & Tea Tree Oils Low Porosity Protein-Fee
  • MM Nourish & Moisture + Coconut Milk
Leave In:
MM Curl Quench + Coconut Oil Curl Smoothie
Gels:
EcoStyler: Olive Oil, Argan, Curl & Wave, and Krystal
Hey everyone, my name is Em. I am SO excited that I have found this site. I am naturally somewhere in the 3AB range, I'd say more toward 3b with sporadic chunks of 3a lol. I am about a two weeks into my journey back to my lovely curls!
So I always has nice wash and go curls and never knew correct maintenance for them being I am the only one in my family with curls like mine.(Everyone else is like 2b waves tops) When I became a teenager all I wanted was pin straight jet black hair (God only knows why lol).The coloring and heat damage continued until I was about 23. I decided I wanted red hair instead (ahh!!) At the time I wanted the curls back, but they were NOWHERE to be seen from all my damage. I knew nothing about porosity, density, or anything really. I didn't know how to approach styling it at all and believed any product would just weight it down. It was just poofy, frizzy, and gross. That's when I began blowing it out basically daily. Two months ago I dyed over the red back to my natural color dark brown. After that I decided I was going to get my hair back and couldn't accept people telling me "oh your hair just changes as you get older" (I'm 26 now) that's when I found this site and it is a game changer! I am still a total newb and would love to learn from you all. The information can be overwhelming going through this journey alone!
So from the ridiculous amount of videos I've watched and research I've done I believe my hair is 3a to 3b. Before all the damage I fell more into the 3b category. I am two weeks into my journey using the CG method and would say half of my curls look like 3 a and half 3b with sporadic ones that will just frizz. I definitely have high porosity, density I would say is medium and strand thickness is medium.
Currently I am using shea moisture coconut hibiscus shampoo or the bjco restoring one with acv and peppermint and also using the matching conditioners. My leave in in the restoring bjco from shea moisture and I have found luck using the curl enhancing smoothie or milks. If I go too heavy handed on the smoothie I run into issues though. The oils I seem to have luck with so far are jbco, coconut, vitamin e, and tea tree. I get fantastic day 1 curls. Somewhat okay, but not very recoverable day 2 curls and forget day 3. I deep condition one to two times a week and use a hair mask once a week, also acv rinces.
My BIGGEST PROBLEM is I am a dental hygienist. I work 4 days a week and get gross aerosol all over me and have to shower when I get home. I shampoo once a week and co wash on the days I work. Can I safely co wash 4 times a week? How do I go about this? I experience dry scalp from time to time. Help!!! Any tips on retaining health with a lot of co washing would be amazing.
Since I've started my journey my curls have definitely come back and I'm so excited to see what they can become!

Last edited by Emilyw18; 07-30-2017 at 12:31 AM.
Hello everyone. Just a new member here. Hoping to get some really good tips and tricks for my hair.
Hey everyone, my name is Em. I am SO excited that I have found this site. I am naturally somewhere in the 3AB range, I'd say more toward 3b with sporadic chunks of 3a lol. I am about a two weeks into my journey back to my lovely curls!
So I always has nice wash and go curls and never knew correct maintenance for them being I am the only one in my family with curls like mine.(Everyone else is like 2b waves tops) When I became a teenager all I wanted was pin straight jet black hair (God only knows why lol).The coloring and heat damage continued until I was about 23. I decided I wanted red hair instead (ahh!!) At the time I wanted the curls back, but they were NOWHERE to be seen from all my damage. I knew nothing about porosity, density, or anything really. I didn't know how to approach styling it at all and believed any product would just weight it down. It was just poofy, frizzy, and gross. That's when I began blowing it out basically daily. Two months ago I dyed over the red back to my natural color dark brown. After that I decided I was going to get my hair back and couldn't accept people telling me "oh your hair just changes as you get older" (I'm 26 now) that's when I found this site and it is a game changer! I am still a total newb and would love to learn from you all. The information can be overwhelming going through this journey alone!
So from the ridiculous amount of videos I've watched and research I've done I believe my hair is 3a to 3b. Before all the damage I fell more into the 3b category. I am two weeks into my journey using the CG method and would say half of my curls look like 3 a and half 3b with sporadic ones that will just frizz. I definitely have high porosity, density I would say is medium and strand thickness is medium.
Currently I am using shea moisture coconut hibiscus shampoo or the bjco restoring one with acv and peppermint and also using the matching conditioners. My leave in in the restoring bjco from shea moisture and I have found luck using the curl enhancing smoothie or milks. If I go too heavy handed on the smoothie I run into issues though. The oils I seem to have luck with so far are jbco, coconut, vitamin e, and tea tree. I get fantastic day 1 curls. Somewhat okay, but not very recoverable day 2 curls and forget day 3. I deep condition one to two times a week and use a hair mask once a week, also acv rinces.
My BIGGEST PROBLEM is I am a dental hygienist. I work 4 days a week and get gross aerosol all over me and have to shower when I get home. I shampoo once a week and co wash on the days I work. Can I safely co wash 4 times a week? How do I go about this? I experience dry scalp from time to time. Help!!! Any tips on retaining health with a lot of co washing would be amazing.
Since I've started my journey my curls have definitely come back and I'm so excited to see what they can become!
Originally Posted by Emilyw18
Hi and Welcome
Co washing is supposed to be healthier than shampooing. You can also water wash. Is you hair protected at work? Does it need to be washed? If it does not need to be washed you can use a shower cap - or possibly use that time to deep condition.

As a side not you may want to post this again in the "General Discussion thread, or under 3 thread, so it is easier for people to respond to your individual concerns.
2b, 2c,
High Porosity - Very Fine Hair

Low Poo: Living Proof Restore Shampoo
Rinse Out: Living Proof Restore Conditioner
Leave In: Living Proof Curl Leave-In
Treatments: Restore Repair Leave-In, Colorful Neutral Protein Filler, Sunflower Oil Pre-poo
Styling: Living Proof Curl Defining Styling Cream and/or Living Proof Curl Enhancing Styling Mousse
Greetings, everybody. I am a newbie (on this forum/website), but been natural since BC'ing back in October of 2015. I have learned a lot about my hair from watching YouTube natural hair tutorials, researching and trail of errors. Yet, still have room for more info. "One never could get enough of learning"... Meanwhile, I have high porosity, medium density and medium-coarse hair. However, I do not know my hair type (curl pattern). I think my hair is mixed with three hair types or patterns? 3c, 4a & 4b. I am not sure. I do know that my hair stays dry, frizz often and I tend to have itchy scalp if I do not keep it moisturized. Recently, I start clarifying my hair with Bentonite clay with ACV. This made my curls and or coils pop! I discovered almost a year ago that the ACV helps stop itchy scalp. ACV wash is definitely one of my holy grail's...

Last edited by NatrulyMe; 08-01-2017 at 11:23 PM.
Hi there!
I'm a new member. I've been spending one day reading as much articles as possible. I suppose my hair type is between 2c and 3a, thin, high porosity and medium thickness. My hair looks great on one day but then hangs down very soon.

First of all I'm going to cut my curls in a couple of weeks, since my goal is to have more voluminous and curlier hair and I absolutely hate their flat top. Then, I would also like to change my routine and start the CG method! Do you have any suggestions on which products I should buy? I think Sandra's posts (e.g. https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlr...-cg-method-bi/) are really appropriate for me.

Thank you in advance,

Federica
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As a child I had pin straight blonde hair, then somewhere between puberty and bleach my hair developed so much wave!!
(Can damage make tour hair wavy??)

I have honestly hated it, I dont want to embrace it, but my hair simply wont grow past my bra strap because straightening. I even went 3 years without coloring to see if it would help and no. Heat is the devil.

Here and there I have attempted styling it using various drug stores products that promised bouncy perfect waves, and instead gave me crunchy, limp, wet looking frizz of varying sizes.

Occasinaly it will look 'oookaay' and I start feeling positive, then after a week or two my waves starts to look dry and flat on top, and frizzy and tightly waved on the bottom. Its not a good look and it makes my head look like a triangle!! Lol.

Do's and don'ts?
I would love if my hair had consistent volume, and the waves were defined 'yet soft' (this is a good look on me.) I basically want my waves to be as loose as possible, and not tight. Without being frizzy.
Hi! I'm new to the party! I've read the website many times for tips and advice but I've decided to finally register!

My curly hair sisters, unite!
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Hey all!

I am also a newbie!
I've had curly hair since I was born, mom did a good job with it growing up. But about 5th or 6th grade I started using a flat iron, I'm now 30 so Ive had a lot of heat damage. Then I flound highlights and dying so then came the Chemical damage. (Ugh) I've tried to go back natural many times, get discouraged and frustrated and reach for my flat iron. So here I am trying again, right now I have a 2c curl pattern not sure if thats my natural or if it will get curlier BUT I'm excited to find out. I'm so glad I found this page to help me along!

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