TSA scanners

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40278427/ns/travel-news

You know, I didn't even think of this. It just gets worse and worse.
Originally Posted by nynaeve77
Originally Posted by sinistral55
These are both so horrifying.
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Last edited by Eilonwy; 01-31-2011 at 02:06 PM.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40278427/ns/travel-news

You know, I didn't even think of this. It just gets worse and worse.
Originally Posted by nynaeve77
Originally Posted by sinistral55
These are both so horrifying.
Originally Posted by discolemonade
Yes, they are. Even worse are some of the comments; the stupidity of some people makes my blood boil.
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Any complaints about the TSA, pat-downs, or being photographed naked?

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I was reading an article today that quoted the TSA head as saying if you boycott the scanner today, you will be pulled aside and told you are going to have to miss your plane. ?????

There was also some feedback from TSA employees who have to conduct the pat-downs, and they said they hated it and it made them feel dirty.

I originally didn't have a strong opinion on this, but now I am becoming more negative on both the scanner and the pat-downs.
Prior to the existence/use of these scanners, I regularly earned the privilege to be specially selected and received the groping/pat down. It is humiliating to have someone touch your entire body in front of everyone.

I will probably go through the scanner. At least I won't have to be touched. If they want to laugh and point at naked images of my body, well that's par for the course in the US these days....Where US Marshalls shoot and kill mentally ill passengers, and your own body is not your own anymore once you purchase a plane ticket.

All of this outrage is just because they're screening everybody through these scanners....no one escapes. In the last 9 years they've been giving non-whites and people with beards and othe suspected Muslims special attention. Now no one escapes. Good job, TSA! Equal opportunity violation for everyone.

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Security guru and scanner-suit plaintiff Bruce Schneier calls it “magical thinking…. Descend on what the terrorists happened to do last time, and we’ll all be safe. As if they won’t think of something else.”

Which, of course, they invariably do. Attackers are already starting to smuggle weapons in body cavities, going where even the most adroit body scanners do not tread.

Junk Security: ‘Naked Scanners’ Won’t Keep Us Safe [Updated] | Danger Room | Wired.com
I remember reading about some people who'd washed ashore near a nuclear power plant near Miami and no one noticed for like 12 hours. These relatively harmless asylum seekers of course didn't have any bad intentions (other than to enter the country illegally but that's another convo). However if they were here with bad intentions no one would have noticed until it was too late anyways.. the damage would have been done.

There's enough security gaps in the US that I'm surprised there aren't MORE problems with terrorism.

Also these security measures are keeping families apart, such as mine.. my family doesn't live in the US and they refuse to come visit me because of this stupid paranoid policy. And I won't go to see them either because I don't wanna be groped by some sweaty TSA gorrilla - I'm not getting scanned and I'm not getting groped. So basically I can say good bye to my family until this BS changes.
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Prior to the existence/use of these scanners, I regularly earned the privilege to be specially selected and received the groping/pat down. It is humiliating to have someone touch your entire body in front of everyone.

I will probably go through the scanner. At least I won't have to be touched. If they want to laugh and point at naked images of my body, well that's par for the course in the US these days....Where US Marshalls shoot and kill mentally ill passengers, and your own body is not your own anymore once you purchase a plane ticket.

All of this outrage is just because they're screening everybody through these scanners....no one escapes. In the last 9 years they've been giving non-whites and people with beards and othe suspected Muslims special attention. Now no one escapes. Good job, TSA! Equal opportunity violation for everyone.
Originally Posted by curlyarca

I have a coworker who traveled last week and said that she saw NOBODY go through the scanners (Atlanta-->San Antonio-->Atlanta). I'll be at the airport in about an hour...we'll see what happens!
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Last edited by Eilonwy; 01-31-2011 at 02:06 PM.
Well, I just flew through Atlanta, and not only did I not get scanned or groped, I saw NOBODY get scanned or groped. The machine was there, just not doing anything. I wonder if they decided to forego the scanning issue to try to prevent possible protests today.
I hate the scanners because I have scoliosis and have rods going all the way down my crooked spine. It's embarrassing enough having scoliosis and all the issues that come with it. I try my best to wear certain clothes and colors to hide the curve. I felt so vulnerable when I walked through one of those scanners. I felt like I was walking around naked in front of people.
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Well I'm driving to Montreal today to avoid having someone grope me in the name of America and 9/11.
I hate the scanners because I have scoliosis and have rods going all the way down my crooked spine. It's embarrassing enough having scoliosis and all the issues that come with it. I try my best to wear certain clothes and colors to hide the curve. I felt so vulnerable when I walked through one of those scanners. I felt like I was walking around naked in front of people.
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I don't have a problem with the pat-down in principle, but I'm sure I'd be a bit wigged out if/when I actually have to undergo one. And I'm wondering if some twisted TSA employee is going to try and get his/her jollies from the pat-downs. I can just see that happening...
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I was thinking the other day that I bet this cold/flu season will be one of the worst for frequent travelers; you know that there are TSA agents who don't change their gloves after each pat down. Just think about the germs they're spreading!
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Homeland Security Trolling We Won’t Fly Blog | We Won't Fly

I was about to delete an offensive comment on this blog – one of the very few we get – and thought, hmm, I wonder where this guy is posting from? Because, really, it is quite unusual for us to get nasty comments. Lo and behold, the troll posted to our website from an IP address controlled by the federal government’s Department of Homeland Security! Here is the taxpayer-funded troll’s gem of a comment, for your entertainment:
**** you, **** all you ********ers, you wont change anything. ride the bus, TSA is here to stay there doing a great job keeping americia safe.
(Later, I checked our comment database and found 19 more of these gems from the same IP address.)

....

Some questions come to mind:
  • Is this an official statement?
  • If not, is it an accurate representation of the DHS position?
  • Was this person on the public dime when he or she posted this?
  • Who posted this and what is their position with DHS?
Although the questions are sarcastic and funny, I certainly don't think it's right that TSA employees are spending valuable time and money trolling on the internet. Even if they want to defend their organization/reputation/whatever there are better ways to do it..
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I flew round trip to Hawaii a couple weeks ago. No scanners, no groping, just the usual metal detector, I was through security in under 10 minutes.
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Last edited by Eilonwy; 01-31-2011 at 02:05 PM.
I just flew domestically in the US with no scanners and no invasive pat down. But these were tiny airports (from Bellingham WA to Mesa AZ).

I just saw an interview with our Canadian Minister responsible for security and we have the scanners here, but not the full-groping alternative. I wonder if more people will opt out here.


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