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munchkin 11-24-2004 08:42 AM

Poll: Law & Order SVU
Law & Order SVU ended last night without giving a verdict. You were supposed to log onto and vote as to whether you thought the professor (played by Billy Campbell) was guilty or not guilty... or not enough evidence.

I thought the female character's personality was a little strange at first, but by the end of the show I felt (1) why would she put herself through this if she wasn't raped and (2) he was much bigger than her and could have stopped anytime. She seemed much too traumatized for it to have just been rough sex that "she" initiated. Therefore, I think he is guilty.

For those of you who didn't watch the show it was a take-off on the Kobe Bryant rape case... a he said, she said.

Hairproductjunkie 11-24-2004 09:28 AM

I watched the episode last night, and didn't really care for it. I guess I'm an old-fashioned gal who liked to know who the bad guy is and some CLOSURE at the end of the show! I felt like I was reading that dumb story about the princess and the tiger again--which door did the prince choose??

As for your question, it really made me wonder about how cases like this really go down. I don't know if there was sufficient evidence to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that he was guilty, but then there wasn't enough to prove that he was innocent, either. I'm sure going through something like this would be horrible, and like you said, I wonder why the girl character would go through that if she made it all up.

Miscellaneous 11-24-2004 10:22 AM

TV too close to reality for some people - makes sense. I actually missed most of it (except for NYPD Blue commercials), but from what I've read about the episode, this is one of those cases where you've got a pretty good feeling the guy's guilty, but according to the standards of our society, he has to be found not guilty.

On a tangent - when I was in high school, I was part of a program where a select few of us got to see the inner workings of the county infrastructure - including the courts. The case we ended up watching was a drug possession case where you got a really good sense the guy was guilty, but the police and prosecution screwed it up to the point where everybody in the group agreed we had to say nothing had been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. If you have to watch too many of those cases, I don't want to think of the frustration you'd have to deal with.

spiderman5000 11-24-2004 01:28 PM

I can't believe Elliot's wife left him!

PixieCurl 11-24-2004 04:32 PM

i'm with poopsie-- it pissed me off that they didn't tell us if he actually did it or not. however, IMHO, i'm going to be unpopular and say i think the guy was not guilty. i think the girl had a lot of mental health issues and was certainly disturbed, but not a rape victim. at least not now-- maybe she was a victim of rape/sexual abuse early in life and that's why she's so messed up now? she just seemed a little bit too manipulative to be telling the truth: i.e., accusing elliot of groping her, "trying to kill herself" when she knew the female detective was on her way. MAYBE she was trying to get back at her roommate for something? or the teacher for saying her portfolio was bad? it seems as though she certainly studied symptoms of rape victims though because she did exhibit symptoms. it's tricky, and i guess we'll never know for sure!!!!

puddles 11-24-2004 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by spiderman5000
I can't believe Elliot's wife left him!

What???!!! :shock: I missed it.

charli 11-24-2004 06:57 PM

If it weren't for her bruises and his bruises, I wouldn't believe her. Her behavior was erratic and her accusation of Elliot was really a nail in her coffin. HOWEVER, I don't buy HIS story of:

"I'm not into rough sex, but she wanted it rough and if I didn't do it rough, she would bite or scratch me, so I gave her what she wanted."

Sorry, don't buy it. If you don't want to engage in rough sex, you don't choke the hell out of somebody. If you don't want to have rough sex and somebody bites you that damn hard, you stop.

CGNYC 11-24-2004 07:15 PM

I didn't get to watch as our stupid cable was out (again). Grrr :evil: I love this show. I only "discovered" it recently and I'm not kidding - it's just about all we watch anymore (thank you USA for all your glorious reruns!). It's nearly filling that empty, empty part of my life where Oz used to be.

PixieCurl 11-25-2004 11:09 PM

did anyone see the life of david gale? the circumstances in this episode of SVU reminded me a lot of the student who accused gale of rape.

munchkin 11-26-2004 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by PixieCurl
did anyone see the life of david gale? the circumstances in this episode of SVU reminded me a lot of the student who accused gale of rape.

I saw the movie. I think the student in Law & Order possibly wanted to have a relationship with the professor but not the way he wanted it. The student in the movie was just out to set the professor up. BTW, this movie (The Life of David Gale) was one of the best movies I have seen in a long time. I can't believe it didn't do any better at the box office or in reviews than it did. I have recommended it to everyone to watch.

charli 11-27-2004 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by PixieCurl
did anyone see the life of david gale? the circumstances in this episode of SVU reminded me a lot of the student who accused gale of rape.

That's exactly what I was thinking about that episode.

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