Devachan Salon White Plains Vs. Moisture Salon

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Good morning! I'm new here and have a question I hope you don't mind.


I am from Upstate NY and just recently started using Deva Curl products for my thick, coarse, wavy/curly hair. I've been reading about the Deva Cut and am very interested as I feel that it can help my pathetic hair.


I really want to go to the Devachan Salon in White Plains however, it is 2.5 hours away from me. I looked at the Stylist Finder on Deva curls website and found one level 3 certified stylist at Moisture Salon in Schenectady which is a lot closer to me.


Here is my dilemma: Do I drive the 5 hour round trip to go to the actual Devachan Salon or do you think the level 3 stylist in Schenectady would be okay to do instead?


For what it's worth I wouldn't mind driving all the way to White Plains for the initial cut as long as it is going to be amazing and worth the long trip. I'm wondering if I do this for the initial cut and then go to the closer salon for maintenance type cuts? Anyone have any experience at either salon?


Thanks so much!
i don't know anything about either salon in particular, but i am familiar with devachan in nyc. i started at devachan 11 years ago where i found my current stylist, carlos flores. he left there and i followed him a few blocks over to mario diab salon. i only go in twice a year as it is traffic-y and a pain to get into the city.

2.5 hrs is quite a trip, but it might be worthwhile just for the initial cut, as a basis for comparison. or, maybe go there once a year and have in between cuts locally.

from what i have seen with curlies i know, local deva-trained stylists is hit or miss, and they are never quite up to the same level. but you won't know til you try. i am sure there are plenty of good ones.
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Last edited by rbb; 02-08-2017 at 11:04 AM.
i don't know anything about either salon in particular, but i am familiar with devachan in nyc. i started at devachan 11 years ago where i found my current stylist, carlos flores. he left there and i followed him a few blocks over to mario diab salon. i only go in twice a year as it is traffic-y and a pain to get into the city.

2.5 hrs is quite a trip, but it might be worthwhile just for the initial cut, as a basis for comparison. or, maybe go there once a year and have in between cuts locally.

from what i have seen with curlies i know, local deva-trained stylists is hit or miss, and they are never quite up to the same level. but you won't know til you try. i am sure there are plenty of good ones.
Originally Posted by rbb


Thanks so much! So I called the level 3 certified stylist closer to me and he is booked out until May 😩😩😩 So I made that appointment and another for September. I did some research on him and apparently he used to work underneath the founder of the Deva curl line (Laura? forget the name) and actually used to work down in the City at the Devachan salon. I guess he recently moved back Upstste and opened his own salon.

So I'm thinking about going to White Plains for the initial cut and then just go to the salon closer to me for maintenace. Hopefully everything works out!

Thanks again!


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so it sounds as tho the guy in moisture salon should be really good if he worked at devachan, and if he is booked until may!!! and, you can keep calling to see if there is a cancellation, i've done that sometimes.

what is his name? i may have heard of him. the founder of the deva method is lorraine massey. she also wrote The Curly Girl Book, both 2001 and 2009 editions. she has since split with devachan and no longer works there.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: [I] curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
so it sounds as tho the guy in moisture salon should be really good if he worked at devachan, and if he is booked until may!!! and, you can keep calling to see if there is a cancellation, i've done that sometimes.



what is his name? i may have heard of him. the founder of the deva method is lorraine massey. she also wrote The Curly Girl Book, both 2001 and 2009 editions. she has since split with devachan and no longer works there.
Originally Posted by rbb


Oh yes Lorraine that's right! (I knew it started with a L) The guy's name is Ron Suriano (I think that's his last name) I'm pretty sure he worked under Lorraine and def at one of the Devachan salons. Yes good sign that he is booked that far out! I'm following his page on Facebook and it does look like he posts there if there are cancellations. So that's good.

I'm thinking of staying with him as far as maintenace goes after the initial cut (as I don't see myself driving that far long term). Especially if he's as good as he appears online.

It's unfortunate though as my current stylist is my BFF/maid of honor and has been doing my hair since we were teenagers (she is now a licensed cosmetologist) I kinda had to "break up" with her and she didn't take it very well. She's not trained in Deva but "familiar" with it. Hard pass on her doing it on me for her first time. It is what it is I guess. For the first time in 33 years I'm actually trying to embrace my curls instead of straightening them. I've actually found the information now that will help me actually take care of them properly!


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@rbb I guess he was Lorraine's assistant at the SOHO location !!!


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i never heard of him, but i only went there for about a year or two, then my stylist left and so did i.

that had to be really difficult to let your bff know that you were going elsewhere for haircuts, but i think you did the right thing. the reality is that cosmetology school does not teach them about curly hair, so we need to find stylists who have had training in curly hair. it's your hair and how we feel about our hair is important. once she sees your cut i'm sure she'll understand.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: [I] curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
Ron at Moisture Salon in Schenectady is amazing. I am going for my 2nd curly cut with him next month.

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Olaplex 1 & 2 monthly, Deva Towel, 2 prong hair clips, satin sleep bonnet. Clarify with sulfate shampoo monthly, no cones.
Ron at Moisture Salon in Schenectady is amazing. I am going for my 2nd curly cut with him next month.

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Originally Posted by suzi2qs


Good to know! Thanks so much! I tried getting in sooner but he is booked out until May 😩 Looking like I will stick to him going forward after the initial cut at Devachan. I can't wait to get this done to my hair! It's been 33 long years with ****ty hair cuts!


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i never heard of him, but i only went there for about a year or two, then my stylist left and so did i.



that had to be really difficult to let your bff know that you were going elsewhere for haircuts, but i think you did the right thing. the reality is that cosmetology school does not teach them about curly hair, so we need to find stylists who have had training in curly hair. it's your hair and how we feel about our hair is important. once she sees your cut i'm sure she'll understand.
Originally Posted by rbb


Yeah it was really tough but she is not certified and I feel like I need someone who knows how to specifically cut curly hair and uses the method all the time. She said she was even hesitant in going to the classes to learn as she doesn't think it's worth it? Who knows. It sucks though because I got a hefty discount going to her and it's going to cost a lot more going to Devachan and Moisture salon. But honestly I think the hair cuts will last longer anyway and I'd rather pay full price and get something amazing vs. having my friend do it as like a discounted favor.

For a while I've been feeling like I'm not really a client to her since I get a big discount and I've been less than pleased with her cuts. I'm hoping she understands and that it doesn't put a strain in our friendship.


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Ron at Moisture Salon in Schenectady is amazing. I am going for my 2nd curly cut with him next month.

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Originally Posted by suzi2qs


Are you local to the salon? I'm in Albany! Thanks again for the info! I can hardly wait!


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Ron at Moisture Salon in Schenectady is amazing. I am going for my 2nd curly cut with him next month.

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Originally Posted by suzi2qs


Are you local to the salon? I'm in Albany! Thanks again for the info! I can hardly wait!


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Originally Posted by LBoogie22
Yes, I live in Schenectady County, the salon is an easy drive off State Street. Bring change for the meters.

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Co-wash - Camille Rose Caramel Co Wash
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Styler - DC Ultra Defining Gel, KCCC, AG Re-coil Camille Rose Curl Maker
DT - CJ Rehab & Repair Mielle Organics Babassu
Olaplex 1 & 2 monthly, Deva Towel, 2 prong hair clips, satin sleep bonnet. Clarify with sulfate shampoo monthly, no cones.
Ron at Moisture Salon in Schenectady is amazing. I am going for my 2nd curly cut with him next month.

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Originally Posted by suzi2qs


Are you local to the salon? I'm in Albany! Thanks again for the info! I can hardly wait!


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Originally Posted by LBoogie22
Yes, I live in Schenectady County, the salon is an easy drive off State Street. Bring change for the meters.

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Originally Posted by suzi2qs


oh nice! Thanks for the tip! ☺️ I can't wait!


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HI
I have been to the soho devachan, the white plains devachan and to several "deva trained"stylists.
I would not suggest driving 2.5 hours to go to devachan in white plains. even with a deva salon, unless you are paying for the most senior stylist, it could be hit or miss. you could possibly make the huge trip, pay $ and not LOVE the cut or the stylist;
usually i would not reccomend a deva "trained" stylist, as you dont really know how much training they really have (unless you find them on the devachan website) some may have only had one training seminar
this ron guy sounds like the REAL DEAL. i would go there first.
the deva cut will be revolutionary for you.
then if you dont feel happy, you can wait 6 months and venture down to westchester. just my 2 cents
HI

I have been to the soho devachan, the white plains devachan and to several "deva trained"stylists.

I would not suggest driving 2.5 hours to go to devachan in white plains. even with a deva salon, unless you are paying for the most senior stylist, it could be hit or miss. you could possibly make the huge trip, pay $ and not LOVE the cut or the stylist;

usually i would not reccomend a deva "trained" stylist, as you dont really know how much training they really have (unless you find them on the devachan website) some may have only had one training seminar

this ron guy sounds like the REAL DEAL. i would go there first.

the deva cut will be revolutionary for you.

then if you dont feel happy, you can wait 6 months and venture down to westchester. just my 2 cents
Originally Posted by Bettyboopnyc


Thanks just seeing this now though and after I went to White Plains for my deva cut lol. I saw a top stylist as I couldn't wait till may to see Aron but I have appointments booked with him already for May and September!

Overall I'm in love with my cut from Devachan however I didn't like how her assistant styled it. I did much better using my products with harder hold then difffused.

What I loved about the stylist was that she actually listened to me and kept a lot of my length. She got rid of the bulk at the bottom and shaped it up real nice.

Overall I'm happy with the cut and glad I went. I may go a bit shorter in May when I see Ron but haven't decided yet as I'm team long hair 4 life. Can't wait to see him though for maintenance going forward and love that his salon is so close to me! Thanks!


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Would love to know the name of your stylist at devachan white plains?
Would love to know the name of your stylist at devachan white plains?
Originally Posted by Bettyboopnyc


Her name was Lois not sure about her last name though.


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