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kddub 02-03-2012 05:58 PM

Just started CG method, not that happy yet, help?
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I have not worn my hair naturally curly for 10 years. Before that I brushed it out and wore it in a ponytail, then I have been straighteing my hair or wearing it in a ponytail for 10 years, and it is starting to break off. I recently got an inch off of the length, and decided to start trying the curly girl method. This is my 2nd day, and maybe I'm expecting better results from it, but not sure if there is something wrong with my hair? The back is super curly, the top and front seem matted down, and the bottom is stringy.
My question I guess is what do you think I'm doing wrong, or am I? Do I need to continue and wait to see if my hair gets better, if so how long till hair starts looking good? Or, do I need to cut more hair off, since the top is very curly, or can I nurture those ends back to health? Thanks for your help :lol:

Corrina777 02-03-2012 06:11 PM

Do you know your hair's properties (texture, porosity, etc.)? What products are you using? Did you do a final sulfate wash? Some people need weeks or even months for their hair and scalp to really adjust to CG. Or it could just be that you're using something that your hair doesn't like. If you give us a little more info I'm sure that there are lots of people who can answer your questions.

kddub 02-03-2012 06:16 PM

Thank you... I am not totally sure what my hair type is!! It varies throughout. Very curly in the back, it is fine. I was thinking it was a 2 wavy, but then it's very curly in the back, so could be 3a. The underneath hair is coarse and straighter.

I started with a coconut oil treatment, left it on overnight, then washed out the next day with a sulfate free shampoo.

I have been using Loreal sulfate free conditioning cleanse, Aveda dry Remedy conditioner, a castor oil leave in, and a vo5 gel. I also have sprayed the underneath hairs with an Aveda hair protectant.

Am I over doing it?

Corrina777 02-03-2012 10:20 PM

I did a little bit of ingredient research, and the second or third ingredient listed on the Aveda conditioner is dimethicone, which makes the product technically non-CG friendly. The L'Oreal cleansing conditioner has mild sufactants, but not any that are recommended for removing dimethicone. This could lead to build up on your hair.

It does sound like you used a lot of product in your hair, but aren't necessarily able to get it all out. If you like the Aveda conditioner, I would suggest finding a stronger cleanser. There are sulfate-free options to removing silicones- cocamidopropyl betaine is a very common non-sulfate surfactant that can remove dimethicone from the hair.

kddub 02-04-2012 08:20 AM

Thank you so much for your help, there is a lot of imformation to process. I thought my Aveda conditioner would be good because it's supposed to be all natural, but you are right there are cones in it. Last night, after reading more on this site, I went and bought a few different conditioners to try.

-Vo5 Herbal Escapes, free me freesia conditioner
- Garnier Fructis Triple nutrition
-Burt's Bees Super shiny Grapefruit and sugar beet

I think that I was thinking "the more the better" after reading Curly Girl, and so I do think I totally over did the product. I also am wondering if my underneath hair has a protein sensitivity, because it is coarse and like straw.

A couple more questions if you don't mind... Do you think I should wash with a sulfate shampoo and start over? And, do you think it would be better to wash with the Loreal cleansing conditioner or one of these others I bought, and which one do I use as a rinse out leave in?

Thank you again so much for your help :)

Corrina777 02-04-2012 08:49 AM

Protein/moisture balance is probably the most difficult part to figure out. Typically, fine hair and high porosity hair like protein. If your hair is fine and highly porous, then protein is a sure bet. It gets a little trickier if you have high porosity but your hair texture is more on the normal to coarse side. In that case, I would still suggest experimenting with protein, but make sure that you follow with lots of moisture. I always do a DT (deep conditioner treatment) immediately following any PT (protein treatment) and my hair seems to love it. Then there are some people who can do PTs but can't use products with protein and vice-versa.

I would probably do a sulfate wash to reset everything. I use lighter conditioners as co-washes and heavier conditioners as ROs. I haven't tried the VO5 or the Burt's Bees, but GFTN is one of my favorites. I use it as a RO when my hair needs lots of moisture. There's definitely nothing wrong with continuing to use the L'Oreal (I've been testing it out, myself), just know that it's not strong enough to remove silicones (neither are the conditioners you mentioned; you would really need a low-poo for that). A lot of CG comes down to trial and error and figuring out what makes your hair happy. There is no right or wrong answer.

kddub 02-04-2012 11:31 AM

Ok, so I washed with a sulfate shampoo, and the GFTM conditioner, as a RO/LI . Then I put a little gel in and did the plopping for a little bit. My hair seems way healthier today, and is very curly, but the ends and underneath hair is very dry and not staying curly. thinking I may need to get those ends cut off. Talking about 3 to 4 inches. Because the top hair looks healthy, and hopeful.

Thanks again for your help.

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