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Kay Rae 12-08-2012 12:49 PM

Is there a happy medium?
Last year i tried going cg for about 6 months. I had some ok hair days, but mostly i feel like i looked like crap and I ended up going back to sulfates and cones and straightening most of the time again. Yesterday i skipped shampoo and used regular conditioner with cones, chi silk infuser, and some gel. The top looked like it usually does scrunching with gel, but the underneath had REAL curls and i was so excited. My hair clearly hates sulfates but likes cones, so I'm kind of lost...

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claudine19 12-08-2012 03:58 PM

Foreseeing the future probably takes a lot of joy out of life, so I would guess there aren't very many happy mediums.

Geek_Chic 12-08-2012 04:39 PM

There are a few things you can try. You could dilute a sulfate shampoo and cleanse with the diluted mixture. IAGirl used to have a blog post on the exact ratio to use, but her blog is down. Basically, with enough dilution, sulfate shampoos become much gentler but can still remove silicones from the hair.

Another option is to use a sulfate free shampoo that contains Cocamidopropyl Betaine. That ingredient will also remove any silicones. Depending on which one you choose, they can be gentle enough to use every time you cleanse. However, some can be more stripping than a sulfate shampoo.

A third possibility is to use a gentle sulfate shampoo or one with low sulfates. Using one with sulfates toward the bottom of the ingredients list is a lot gentler than using one with them at the top, but it will still remove silicones like any sulfate shampoo. CalamityM, for instance, uses a gentle sulfate shampoo every wash, and her curls look fantastic. You could even use the Condition /Wash /Condition method, where you condition the length of your hair and leave it in, then shampoo your roots, and rinse. Then you move to your rinse out conditioner step and proceed with the rest of your routine as you would normally.

I know you said straight cowashing doesn't work for you, but you could alternate it with a sulfate free shampoo when your hair starts getting buildup from silicone use or when your curls are looking droopy.

Lastly, you could try using silicones that don't build up. Amodimethicone, for instance, deposits a single layer, then repels further deposits. It also targets damaged areas, which could be a bonus if you're going to routinely use a flat iron. It isn't water soluble though, so you would need a sulfate free shampoo (low poo) or a sulfate shampoo to remove it. Cyclomethicone (and other Cyclo-cones and Cyclo-siloxanes) aren't water soluble, but according to the CurlChemist, can be cowashed out (or of course low poo'd or sulfate poo'd).

Kay Rae 12-09-2012 02:40 PM

Wow, thank you. Anyone have any brand recommendations?

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Geek_Chic 12-09-2012 05:10 PM

Do you have any idea what your hair properties are (porosity /texture)? Anyone can give you a list of their favorite products (mine are in my siggy), but suggestions are more likely to work for you if we can tailor suggestions to what your hair needs. Check out this page for more info: Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics

Kay Rae 12-09-2012 06:25 PM

Maybe this is why full cg didn't work for me. Medium texture and between low and normal porosity (strands float on water but have had no problems chemically coloring for the last 10 years).

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Kay Rae 12-09-2012 06:37 PM

Also, it's dense. I can't put gel on very wet hair because it's too heavy

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